CompensationSep 1, 2018
Amazondghkkfj

FB vs. Amazon offer stock

Have 100k of stock left (unvested) at Amazon (at the current price), and have an offer from FB with 80k of stock for the first year. Considering how fast Amazon stock is raising, should I wait a year until my Amazon stock gets vested, and then join FB? Or join FB now? P.S. the first year TC at FB will be 300k (with signing bonus), but currently it's 280k at Amazon. (E4 at Fb, L5 at Amazon, 3yoe)

Cadence artist- Sep 1, 2018

Sign up bonus is not part of tc...

Amazon dghkkfj OP Sep 1, 2018

Ok, don't mind taking it out. Are you suggesting to stay at Amazon for a year and then leave?

Microsoft IEjP42 Sep 1, 2018

Or just take the FB signing bonus and invest in AMZN if you’re that confident

Amazon dghkkfj OP Sep 1, 2018

Good idea!

Cadence artist- Sep 1, 2018

Can you give TC on FB vs TC on Amzn? I dont think FB will wait a year for you so thats a risk to consider anyway

Amazon azmix Sep 1, 2018

Money aside, I wonder if going in as E4 - the lowest level - is the right career move unless you don’t see L6 anywhere soon on the horizon.

Amazon dghkkfj OP Sep 1, 2018

E3 (SDE1) is the lowest level, not E4. E4 (SDE2) is equivalent to L5 of Amazon. E5 is SDE3 (senior). Also no, L6 won't happen here at least for the next 3 years.

Amazon azmix Sep 1, 2018

Yes, that’s right - I just didn’t know a single E3 engineer there.

Amazon eminence Sep 1, 2018

There’s so many bad posts on Blind from FBers about wlb. I know lots of people shit on Amazon, but wlb here is fine for most teams honestly. Facebook would be nice to have for resume, I would probably take it just for that. Worst case scenario, you can boomerang back to Amazon.. they have so many SDE roles they can’t fill.

Amazon dghkkfj OP Sep 1, 2018

I was on a team that owned customer facing tier1 services and wlb was fine (because I had really good managers and teammates). Then I moved to a team that has no tier1 services, but the manager is terrible at timing the milestones and many other aspects, that now I feel my wlb is terrible.

Amazon eminence Sep 1, 2018

I heard people in FB are commonly submitting CRs at 11-12pm and operating on a hackerish culture. The impossible bar for L6 at Amazon is a good enough reason to leave. FB has the highest tech bar, so I think you can use that on your resume to go somewhere normal like Google after. Also.. aren’t you approaching the 4 year cliff at Amazon? Your TC at amazon is way beyond L5 band for SDE2. Your TC is only so high because of stock attrition, true TC should only be around 230k.

Blue Cross Blue Shield damn111 Sep 1, 2018

I would stick at Amazon wont be surprised if stock gets to 2300-2400. MKM Partners are predicting Amazon to be worth 2.3T by 2024

Microsoft TheRedPolo Sep 1, 2018

That's just a 20% upside from the current levels. I'm sure FB will rise by 20% too. In any case nothing is stopping OP from investing FB comp in Amazon stocks.

Expedia fubfo Sep 2, 2018

Take FB offer and stick eith FB stock. It eill raise atleast 30% in an year

Amazon dghkkfj OP Sep 2, 2018

Amazon stock has been doubling for the last 2-3 years

Facebook Bootcamp! Sep 2, 2018

Stay at Amazon then

Amazon Wikified Sep 2, 2018

This is close enough that you should think longer term than the 20k gap. You should really let your passion drive the decision. What about the work at either is more exciting, the money will be there.