Both opportunities in Bay Area. TCs would be similar, so keeping it aside. Current TC ~150k, not from Oracle. YoE: 6 Dear blinders, please help in deciding my next opportunity. Thank you in advance! I am inclined for Facebook mainly due to passion/fascination for working IG and WhatsApp teams. Am I missing anything in evaluating this? Facebook: Pros: * Fast promo to E5 * More passionate about working for IG and WhatsApp since beginning. * Offer accepted, immigration started (since Google’s TM calls didn’t begin at that point) * Got the max E4 TC (170/400/75) Cons: * Team not decided and may not get IG/WhatsApp in the boot camp * Pressure to deliver otherwise PIP fear * Technology switch (Java to something else. Should this be a concern due to learning curve?) Google (no TC offered, coz TM pending) Pros: * Stable company, good WLB compared to Facebook, no PIP * Can choose the team in advance, more opportunities in Java, which is my background until now. Cons: * Less team match calls for L4 (possibility of one team interested to hire, not sure though) * Slower promo to L5 * If scheduled team match calls don’t go through, no clarity over joining
TC with yoe or gtfo
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FB!!
Tc or stfu
I already mentioned. What are you talking about?
Your new TC at FB and GOOGLE!! How hard is it?
Java opportunity is pretty limited at FB so you will most likely have to switch to python/Erlang since you are interested in IG/WA. Life is stressful at FB but it also depends on how you handle it. Promotion is faster in FB than G but no guarantee. Personally I don't care much about the team or tech, but culture match is more important to me.
Hey. Thanks a lot for the response. Can I dm you? I had a few questions.
OP, some nits in both of your pros for Google - 1. Java opportunities are also limited at Google , unless you are looking for mediocre proto moving roles i.e. middleware api software engineer. There are Android Java roles as well, but I don't consider mobile dev as Java, it's a whole different ball game. 2. Google also has pip, but you need to be really trying hard not to work in order to get pipped. I think ~5% get an NI rating and these folks stand a chance to get into PIP. Pip at Google is a fair game unlike Amazon, so that's why you don't hear much about it.
Google is ranked 2nd on https://techmash.io and FB is ranked 9th, so ppl seem to favour Google over FB for equivalent TC
That is a shitty website, can’t even see the top of leaderboard
Google for sure
Faster growth opportunity at FB and TC will be higher for sure
Google. It's not like getting promoted quickly is impossible. If you bring the same effort to Google that you would to FB you'll be able to reach 5 in a decent amount of time.
You've already accepted so what's the point? Why so much FOMO?
I am inclined towards Facebook. I want to validate. I am yet to join, so it’s still undecided.
It's just a question of faster promo vs good WLB. Choose one.
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