Tech IndustryJul 17, 2021
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Facebook provided iPhone

Any FB employees with a company provided iPhone can please confirm whether or not the phone is in supervised mode? And if so, what is being monitored? https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202837

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Google ❣️ Jul 17, 2021

Let's just say you should use it only for work. In which case you shouldn't care about monitored since your work is tracked anyways.

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Hr4dCmmnts OP Jul 17, 2021

It’s just a pain to carry two phones around. I’d rather use the dual number capability (via eSIM), but obviously not if the phone is heavily monitored.

Google ❣️ Jul 17, 2021

Carry two phones? The phone is at your desk or work backpack. You only carry it perhaps inside the office and during oncall. It's not even just about privacy, work life balance etc.

Humana bygbird Jul 17, 2021

Facebook tends to supervise/track non company provided phones and devices for consumers, I can only imagine what they might do with the one they actually provide

Scotiabank hQlx67 Jul 17, 2021

This

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Hr4dCmmnts OP Jul 17, 2021

But we’re talking about Apple devices here and there are platform constraints that dictate what can be monitored, so I was curious if anyone has verified what they actually monitor. It’s pretty easy to see.

Oracle sakthlonda Jul 17, 2021

Facebook and privacy don't go hand in hand.

Facebook dynasty002 Jul 17, 2021

They dont/cant monitor the data. Its apples MDM policy. I use it as a personal phone ( ported my personal number to corp plan) . Ofcourse dont watch porn or anything . But its generally fine.

Humana bygbird Jul 17, 2021

Ahh that restriction in the last line might be big for some people dawg

Facebook dynasty002 Jul 17, 2021

Oh I have watched porn on it lol. No worries. Just dont watch CP and your good

Facebook qpjw67 Jul 17, 2021

Love seeing all these answers from non-FB employees. The answer is no, they don't monitor it. I use mine as my primary phone, including engaging in very adult phone activities with it with my Tinder matches or consuming adult content when I don't have any Tinder matches. Never had any problems. FB has better things to worry about.

Facebook dynasty002 Jul 17, 2021

They hate us cuz they aint us. Meanwhile lemme go wipe my tears with $100 bills.

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Hr4dCmmnts OP Jul 17, 2021

So you’ve confirmed the phone is NOT in supervised mode?

JPMorgan Chase init_1 Jul 17, 2021

Facebook supervises you even when you don’t work for them, so ask yourself that question again without cracking a smile and laughing a little.

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ULDj63 Jul 17, 2021

Yes it tracks you and they have the ability to remotely turn on camera and audio recording, same with their laptops under MDM. I use MDM for a startup and I know what’s possible. Zuckerberg tapes his work laptops for a reason.

Oracle Patrick⭐️ Jul 17, 2021

I don’t know about Facebook and supervised mode, but I always assume my employer is performing all the monitoring they are legally allowed to do. Even if Facebook isn’t currently using supervised mode, I doubt they would notify their employees when/if they do begin using it.

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Hr4dCmmnts OP Jul 17, 2021

iPhones need to be wiped and setup again to enter supervised mode. That’s one of the reasons I’d never choose an Android phone as a company provided phone.

Microsoft ArJr25 Jul 17, 2021

Basically any company provided iPhone will be enrolled into their MDM as a supervised device. That’s the normal thing to do and is super common among large companies. That alone doesn’t necessarily mean they’re doing anything wrong or excessive. You can get a basic sense of what they’re pushing down to the device by looking at the management profile. Settings - General - Device Management

Facebook facen00b Jul 17, 2021

Here’s what the profile is configured with:

Facebook facen00b Jul 17, 2021

I’ve worked at Apple before and am intimately familiar with MDM (I’ve literally issued MDM commands and seen the output of every right listed above). The max this can let them see is a list of all applications on your device. They cannot see data in those applications or data flowing over your phone’s network. Data from your phone would go through your company only if you enable corporate VPN but even then if its over TLS then they can’t see anything (caveat they may still see DNS queries so they know what websites you are visiting but not what you’re consuming).

Facebook facen00b Jul 17, 2021

The last right - install/remove apps - they can only remove managed apps, not the ones you install from the App Store.