There are so few women leaders at Nike and I find it to be a big problem that contributes to our culture. How is your company with promoting women and their leadership? Personally I really think there are so many competent women who just don't get promoted where I work because of our culture and their gender.
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Target makes it a focus with the expected mixed results.
Ha, and to meet expected ratio, it sometimes hires undeserving women as well.
Similar findings when I was at JCP. No evidence that women are any better or worse than their male equivalent. I have observed at least one situation where a woman was being tolerated as an incompetent lower officer by another C-level female where a man would be unlikely to have tolerated strings of failings of another man.
That sucks to hear. Amazon is definitely great with female leadership. My manager is a woman and her manager is a woman as well. My skip already got promoted twice in a year and two months.
How many women at Nike have the same experience as the men being promoted? Do you have proof they are more qualified but are getting passed over?
I think Sephora is somewhere around 80-85% women in general. We have mostly female leadership. Pretty amazing. There's only maybe 9-12 guys on my floor. Very unusual but very refreshing.
Sounds like you have a huge diversity problem. What is Sephora doing to fix it?
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Nike has programs that managers go through for diverse hiring. I think you need to leave the salt at home. There are plenty of female leaders that are stepping up. While you're right about gender inequality in the United States, right now is the best time it's ever been to be a female leader and looked at with an unbiased eye. It's easy to blame the system. I can say the same about African American, Asian, or Latino leaders. Point is, everyone tries hard to get to where they are.
Most women want to slow down during their prime, where most men work their ass off during their prime. 30s to early 40s . Women take breaks during this period to start a family. By 40s most men will already be on the path to their ideal place for retirement and the momentum just keeps them going. This leads them to top positions by their late 40s on an average. Women who overcome this hurdle in 30s do become top executives if they are talented, just like men.
I'm tired of seeing women acting victimized about everything. Yes there is a gender equality problem. But just because your firm doesn't have enough women leaders does not mean it was because of some bias. It could just have been that not enough talented women turned up. In fact I would say if a woman shows promise, managements these days are extremely keen to promote them and give them great growth opportunities. Way more than generally happens for men.
Many women leaders at eBay have reached there purely based on gender card. Our VP of engineering, for example, is a terrible leader and engineer. But she looks good on the books for diversity.
Just as there are shitty leaders that are men that somehow got to their position. In either case, it's on the company to get rid of underperforming people, regardless of gender
Yep all the time. When you move jobs unless you do fantastic in the interviews and have competing offers they will down level you. This is the industry norm. This isn’t because you’re a woman. It’s just the way recruiting works. Oh and one more thing your argument would be valid if you’re moving to an eng role. If you don’t have experience in say product management and you want to move to it, you start at the bottom. Just because you’re a senior eng doesn’t mean that your seniority gets carried forward to other non-eng roles. This is especially true when you move companies.
1) that is crap. Why did the recruiter know your marital status and your husbands profession? They shouldn’t ask that info and I wouldn’t personally volunteer it. Sounds like a very unprofessional person. 2) if you were applying for a non-eng role then why does your technical qualification come in the picture?
Women are not held back. They don't like it or have the talent for it. There are thousands of top level female executives (CEOs, chairmen etc) The fact remains that it's a role that most women really don't want or have the talent for. This is not a problem. This is a matter of choice. Diversity for diversity's sake is contralogical. Diversity is awesome when the individuals have talent and demonstrate key attributes of leadership potential, but promoting them just because of their race, gender or any other reason than the value they deliver to the company is just fucking stupid. This is a similar complaint with the whole women in tech thing. Women don't like it or want to do it 24/7. There are some who do and for them, they are limited only by their competence and ambition. The same goes for executives
^I don’t completely agree with this. Yes I know there’s shortage of women in tech and bias does sometimes happen. The solution is not giving free jobs and promotions to women to increase diversity, it’s to give them a fair chance.
@Edmond M, at Nord we talk a lot about diversity but what is ACTUALLY done?