Tech IndustryOct 13, 2022
NetflixNetflaps

Gender pay gap

I just read that for every $1 a man earns, a woman in the same job earns $0.59. Why do companies prefer to hire men if they are as productive as women but cost more? Now when all companies are laying off people why are they not laying off the expensive men and keeping the women employed at lower cost to the company?

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WhoIsAskin Oct 13, 2022

That's how I approach the "problem"

BM Technologies jomak Oct 13, 2022

Are you 21? Serious question.

Traction on Demand yweN01 Oct 13, 2022

Gender pay gap is fake. If it was cheaper to hire women, no men would ever be hired.

McKinsey J.Pow Oct 13, 2022

Would be surprised if no one said this

Square dgkysak Oct 13, 2022

Sure, because unconscious bias is not a thing and all humans are very rational beings

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Netflix Netflaps OP Oct 13, 2022

Men don't like to make more money by hiring cheaper employees?

Microsoft deal@msft Oct 13, 2022

if you hire more woman there’s always a risk of them replacing you.

LinkedIn gbtJ40 Oct 13, 2022

You are misinterpreting how the pay gap works. A lot of the pay gap is due to the role of home care (elderly and child) that society typically places on women. Taking years off of your career or putting your career second to your spouses will affect the types of opportunities available. Studies have shown that women rarely get above middle management because the time commitment involved by those higher level roles. So it isn’t necessarily a manager seeing the same resume for a man and woman and deciding pay differently. It’s the divergences in experience over time as women have to take steps out of the work force. Universal childcare and elder care would be steps in the right direction to solve this issue.

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blaaaaaaa Oct 13, 2022

Yes AND it is exploited by “usually” democrat to consolidate power.

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creosote Oct 13, 2022

I thought gender pay gap disappears when calculated by hourly rate?

Salesforce dunzoo Oct 13, 2022

Why do companies pay more to hire a new employee while paying peanuts to employees who have been in the company for longer tenure? It’s not about who is better and about saving money. They think existing employees wouldn’t change jobs until they are very unhappy. So they pay minimum hikes. Same with women and men at the same company. They feel the man would leave unless given more money and the woman would stay despite being given less

JPMorgan Chase hajsb392bv Oct 13, 2022

What you just described in the last paragraph is illegal

Salesforce dunzoo Oct 13, 2022

These are not conscious choices. Men don’t want to not treat women equally. It’s just unconscious biases

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OG100 Oct 13, 2022

It’s a myth. This shit has been debunked so many times. If I could hire women for 0.59 on the dollar wouldn’t all companies hire more women because you save money? There is a greater % of women who are enrolled in college than men in the US today Let me walk you through it. Will women work in construction? No Will women work as longshoremen? No Will women work as delivery drivers (UPS)? No Will women work on an oil rig? No Will women work as a garbage collector? No Remember the exception doesn’t make the rule. Men are willing to take on higher risk jobs. They are expected to be providers and protectors of the family. With that comes a sense of responsibility and ambition. Women will go into teaching, admin jobs, nursing, Human Resources, marketing, pr, etc. These jobs don’t pay as much as the higher risk jobs. Women aren’t aggressive like men when it comes to asking for what they want when it comes to salary, raises, etc. Men are more aggressive because as stated above as providers they have to be. Have mouths to feed Women bear children, they take care of children, they play other critical roles at home. So their time is less focused on their career but more on children. This is again generally speaking.

Microsoft loppqq Oct 13, 2022

Op did say pay is less for the same exact position…so your comments about careers don’t make sense in that context

JPMorgan Chase hajsb392bv Oct 13, 2022

Yea but OP is wrong

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USFP20 Oct 13, 2022

A lot of these comments are pure BS. Research has found that women often times don’t negotiate as well as men. Women are also not given as many opportunities due to going on maternity leave and they tend to stick to jobs that have better work-life balance. Now, sure, some of that could be solved by being a better negotiator or whatever. But I’ve personally witnessed people not getting promoted or being penalized for going on maternity leave or caring for their family. To answer your question: there are biases that sometimes play in favor of hiring men, such as the fact that they will never need to go on maternity leave. But the real answer is that often times there are more men in the software engineering field than women. If you are interviewing candidates in a non-FAANG, you’ll see significantly more SWE men than women, so in turn, your best candidate is most likely a man.

Square dgkysak Oct 13, 2022

Most tech companies have paternity leave for men. It's even the same duration for both genders (they kind of forgetting that it's super hard work late in the pregnancy and don't account for that). And given that men have kids as often as women, maternity leave argument makes no sense

HPE strangely Oct 14, 2022

Square, the question to ask is if men utilize their leave in the same manner as women, collectively. I mean, there’s a social aspect to it too that unconsciously manifests at work

Google steamdeck Oct 13, 2022

It is a lie, it has never been cheaper to hire women. When it was cheaper to hire abroad, companies started hiring abroad. When it became cheaper to hire contractors, companies hired contractors. When it was again cheaper in the long run to have full time employees, companies made sure FTEs stayed for longer through stocks and options. It is a lie, it has never been cheaper to hire women.

Square dgkysak Oct 13, 2022

Sure it's a lie, who would believe in data, right? I bet women invented this lie to negotiate higher salaries

Google steamdeck Oct 13, 2022

Sure it's true, who would try to understand that data, right? I bet men founding companies invented this discrepancy just to lose money to male employees.

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McKinsey J.Pow Oct 14, 2022

Oh wow You could say men rather play video games and watch / play sports tho couldnt you? So many in incels in this app

Hubspot XbBM23 Oct 14, 2022

Or taking care of kids, cleaning house and cooking food.