Hey everyone, My nephew is fortunate enough to hold 2 offers for this upcoming and final summer before he graduates. He has an offer from VMware as a Product Manager intern (B2B) and an offer from Goldman Sachs as a Product Manager intern in the Marcus org (B2C). I’m a SWE so I can’t give him much advice on the Product side. Obviously both are in very different verticals with one being enterprise software and the other being fintech. He’s stressing out because deadlines for both are very soon, so I wanted to reach out to the community and ask which one should he choose? Which one would set him up better to apply to new grad APM/PM programs? His short and long-term goal is to be at either FAANG or a unicorn. Thanks! TC 320k, YOE 7
Looking at the most important part of this post: Which one would set him up better to apply to new grad APM/PM programs? His short and long-term goal is to be at either FAANG or a unicorn. Thanks! I think the answer to both of those is that VMware is best. Congrats to him!
Goldman Sachs any day! My friend who started with me is a director and I’m still a SWE. He gets to make more money, travel more, have better career growth and hell yeah better life. It’s same slogging day in and day out in tech company.
My advise is go to VMware, their product line covers very complex aspects of Computer science (Hypervisor and resource management) and with Cloud growth expect immense growth as well on the onprem side (Check AWS post, Google Anthos) with their Kubernetes offer and project Pacific, go to VMWare
Depends on if he’s interested more in b2b or b2c . I’d say take whatever interests him more
Goldman
Vmware without question. They're going places. Lots of great things in the works.
What team for VMware?
Ask him to gather more data and hence context from the hiring manager: 1) which manager has a better defined work/project for him? 2) How much does he like the project in one team versus the other? 3) what are examples of accomplishments that interns were able to achieve in each of the teams? If the hiring manager cannot recall such examples he will have low expectation as well. Avoid it. 4) how much mentoring will he get in each place? As in chess there is no single best move, so in life and career there are no best moves. The best move depends upon the position of the board or more generally the context :) Good thing is he cannot go wrong with either of the offers! Good luck!
I interned at Goldman Sachs before as an swe intern (not in Marcus) and Marcus was p hot. If your nephew wants to do PM in fintech in the future, I'd say Marcus is better. I had two PMs on my team (again, not Marcus) coming from top3 MBA and top3 consulting background. From what I can see Marcus PM is a solid choice but I think it depends on what your nephew wants to do in the future. Marcus might not be as well-known as VMware in tech, though when I interned at GS we had a bunch of ex-VMware.
First off, congrats to your nephew! If his goal is hardcore tech/fang, VMware would be best as it’s a straight up tech company. Pm/tech at banks (outside maybe cap one) lags considerably behind what straight up tech companies do, and VMware would bolster his resume + overall growth considerably more.