Google —> Snap
I’ve only been at Google for 6 months and absolutely love it. BUT... Got contacted by a recruiter at Snap and wanted to explore it just for the heck of it. Didn’t think I’ll get an offer but here we are!! I’ve got around 8 years experience. TC at Google is ~300K (L4). I got downleveled when got hired at G but told Snap I’m L5 with 350K TC. Their offer is ~400K. I haven’t negotiated with them yet so I’m guessing I can bump it up. So here we are: in reality I’m getting almost $100K more per year but at a company that I HATE their product and don’t believe in it at all. The company itself seemed pretty cool and their engineers were smart and friendly. They also had layoffs recently and id have to move to LA from the Bay Area (family of 3, working wife) I’ll most likely decline the offer and STOP interviewing for fun until I’m actually ready to leave. But what would you guys do?
Stock is backloaded 10/20/30/40 so you lose out if you don't stay and if it tanks in next 4 years you are screwed
They moved to equal vesting per yr
Interesting. Recruiter didn’t mention such split.
I would short snap stocks while being in Google.
I suspect you can get at least a 50k bump at Google with a promo soon enough. Ask if snap can hold this offer for 6 months. Maybe you can even tell your manager about this. See what you can get at goog
I hate to ask for money since I’m very new. Regarding promo, I’m busting my ass right now and doing L5 projects to get promoted but realistically I don’t think it will happen this time around (but you never know). They won’t be able to hold off for 6 months. They need to fill the position as soon as possible (or so they say)
Hmmm, ganjoo’s option might actually be your best.
Just to clarify, you lied to snap about your level at google? Not smart if they do any background check (lying about tc is fine )
The OP ronened himself.
What is “ronened”?
Damn, that’s a hard one. I don’t know what I would do.
I love how folks with <10 yoe tell they got downleveled coming at L4 with almost L5 comp.
:) I personally don’t think I was downleveled. But people on Blind told me I was downleveled. Also, I see many people at G with less than 10 years of experience at L5 and in a few cases L6!!!
Just check their tenure at teams/ and when they got promoted at go/whogotp And yes, it’s easier to promote internally than come as L5
Why not move to snap and move to google back if it doesn’t work out? Although you have to interview again.
Moving the family for short terms goals is hard. If they were in the Bay Area, I might have considered this option.
I would say go for it. And it might open up some more doors later. Since you have lot of experience i would you will be much more valued in Snap than google. I would say continue your fun with interviewing ( you enjoy it right) that will keep your chances of getting into google or what ever best is.
Aren’t there other companies offer 400k?
Get the offer in writing and show it to Google. Have your boss match and then some to keep you. Assuming you’re a talented mother fucker they want to keep
Won’t that affect credibility In current team. May be u can do this and move from current google team
If anything, your credibility may go up and you’ll show your boss you have a spine and are willing to advocate. Or you can keep your head down because you don’t want to “bother anyone” / “loose credibility.” This is how business works. The strong take advantage of the weak. Those without a vision or appetite for risk tend to work for those that have a vision and take risks.
Hmm if you hate their product it will be hard to stick with them in volatile times. Snap is going to have plenty of them
Good point