Google L5 SWE: evaluate offer

Jun 1, 2018 68 Comments

155k base
15% target performance bonus for meets
320k/4 stocks
35k sign-on

Feels I'm getting lowballed here.

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  • Uber YfNT20
    All three compinents can be improved. This seems to be a L4 offer.
    Jun 1, 2018 7
    • Facebook lstagram
      About 330k I guess
      Jun 1, 2018
    • Amazon bananamaan
      OP
      They are saying 320-330k might not get approved. Starting to sound more and more like BS
      Jun 1, 2018
  • Google Joker!
    Lowballed. You better go as L4 with this. TC isn't worth the responsibility. Take it from a new L5 hire myself.
    Jun 1, 2018 12
    • Amazon blueshift
      Lol wasted in PhD... Joker, did you have to show your other offer when negotiating?
      Jun 1, 2018
    • Google Joker!
      No just asked for their offer break down.
      Jun 1, 2018
  • Amazon bananamaan
    OP
    Are Google salaries in decline or I'm getting bullshitted?

    They're saying how this offer is good and how they doubts they can even match my other non-FANG offer or my inflated Amazon comp.
    Jun 1, 2018 10
    • Tesla LEETCODER
      On the other hand you are on the lower end of L5. During review you will have a big increase in pay.
      Jun 1, 2018
    • Amazon bananamaan
      OP
      Yeah, like bottom 5% comp for L5 SWE. Not sure how long would it take to dig myself out of that hole.
      Jun 1, 2018
  • Tesla LEETCODER
    How did you prepare for the interview any advice?
    Jun 1, 2018 7
    • Microsoft Beavis
      Thanks OP. I come from a distributed systems background, were the questions topic specific? I can imagine them asking about consistency levels, consensus, replication, consistent hashing and sharding. But did they go into further details like Paxos implementation and all?
      Jun 1, 2018
    • Amazon bananamaan
      OP
      It was not on that level of detail for L5 (implement Paxos). Just design a specific system, general approach, compare solutions, benefits/drawbacks of each.
      Jun 1, 2018
  • Oracle Reddit!
    OP, get counter offers. I know someone with $600k RSU offer with 6 yoe.
    Jun 1, 2018 4
    • Google Noogler69
      It’s a negotiating tactic. Tell them you’re going to walk and they’ll ask you exactly how much it will take to hire you, and then they’ll most likely give you exactly that (if it’s not too much)
      Jun 1, 2018
    • Google Noogler69
      They might think you’re desperate to leave your current job
      Jun 1, 2018
  • Jun 1, 2018 6
    • Facebook gLKg44
      Google does pay the same in both places.
      Jun 1, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng yeehaaaw
      Nope, Google does not.
      Seattle base is less by 8-12% and equity is also on lower side
      Jun 1, 2018
  • Facebook gLKg44
    Current level? This is a slightly lower than median L5 offer.
    Jun 1, 2018 1
    • Amazon bananamaan
      OP
      This would be a bump in level for me, but not in comp for sure.
      Jun 1, 2018
  • Pandora Diphthong
    Wow that’s only 20k over my l3 offer. (Bay Area)
    Jun 1, 2018 7
    • Pandora Diphthong
      I forgot that part. It isn’t in the description and it slipped my mind. Less terrible then.
      Jun 1, 2018
    • Amazon bananamaan
      OP
      Added perf bonus target to OP
      Jun 1, 2018
  • Amazon bananamaan
    OP
    What should be the numbers to go for here considering my existing offers and current comp in the $310-320k region? I really don't want to lose $50k/yr just to have Google on my resume.
    Jun 1, 2018 2
    • Facebook gLKg44
      320k sounds fair. To get there, you'll need to start by asking for 360k.
      Jun 1, 2018
    • Amazon bananamaan
      OP
      So, is something like 170/40/450 a reasonable final goal for an L5 SWE?
      Jun 2, 2018
  • Amazon Mmhh
    yoe?
    Jun 1, 2018 1
    • Amazon bananamaan
      OP
      10+, most at no-name companies
      Jun 1, 2018

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