Hi. I got a lowball offer L3(junior) that require me to relocate to sf from Google. On the other hand, I got a normal L5(mid level) offer from AWS in nyc which I will negotiate more tomorrow. Based on the discussion with Google HR, it seems that they won't be able match aws. So help me decide please. Google or AWS? Personally speaking, L3 which stands for junior dev in Google is very god damn humiliating for a guy like me with 5 decent years of experience. But putting Google on resume is way better than amazon.
You're asking wrong set of people. Everyone on Blind likes to sck Google's dong. Clearly, it's not worth taking a level cut just because of the brand.
But they are sucking it for a reason right? Level cut is very very very humiliating I agree.
Yes - the reason being Google is an amazing place to work. I strongly believe it WAS around 6-7 years ago or prior to GCP. However, if you don't mind working at L3, you should take it but I feel otherwise.
Google has been almost exclusively shelling out ridiculously lowball offers for the past year now. It seems like I read a different post about this every day on Blind. Here’s the latest: https://us.teamblind.com/s/sj5JRz5K Hell no you should not let them demote you like that. It’s a stupid career move and the only reason they do shit like this is because people like us let them get away with it. Honestly, why are you even considering their insultingly low offer?
Their recruiter kinda sound sincere during the phone call. I do notice the recent lowball offer practice from G. People told me the work life balance there is good. As a new father, I might be able to cut 50k and spend more time with family tho.
Well, they’re known to be good to families, so if that’s priority #1, I’d say it’s a pretty good one. To be honest, I was concerned you’d be a 20-something fresh out of college that is chasing the Google allure. Clearly you have your priorities straight putting your family first in this decision, and you seem to be considering all of your options carefully, so I would say go with your gut at this point. This really is just a question of if you think those extra few hours per week you’d be spending with your family is worth a pay cut this big. I feel like you can’t make a wrong choice here, but best of luck to you regardless, and congrats on what you’ve accomplished.
Google is a more prestigious place.
Accept aws then apply for google next time. They won't go anywhere
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google will give you about 30k after tax for relocation but the downlevel and the lower tc could be a turn off imo. Is google tc any higher/livable in the bay area? If so fucking take it man. Amzon work life balance could be hell and you might not survive that. Post both TC may be people could help you a bit more
Junior position with 5 solid years of experience? Sounds like a slap in the face to me lol theres seniors devs out here with 3-4 years
You should go to Google op. You have every logical reason to go to aws and you're still considering g... That means that's where you want to be. You can always join later, but if you think you'll be happier at Google, then nothing else matters
Go google, brand will hating long run
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Take AWS offer.
Good sir. Could you give me a reason?
You stated the reason yourself, i.e., G down leveling you.