CompensationMar 5, 2018
Applefung

Google Vs Amazon

Alexa team in Seattle just offered me an SDE2 position with 160k base. 105k sign on over two years and 96 shares. Is this a good? I also have a potential offer with Google in mountain view - but they'd like me to inform then what my expectations are first. Level should be a l4 What would be a good offer to compete with Amazon? Update: I offered Google the Amazon numbers, and they just got back. 145/280/20. The recruiter did mention that because my Amazon offer is "quite high" I wouldn't be getting increments in the following year as salaries/cash flow are capped. Seems like a valid point, and I'm also factoring in I could maybe move to Kirkland in a few years to offset cost of living? Also, this was the final offer apparently.

Amazon IyFB10 Mar 5, 2018

96 over 4 years?

Apple fung OP Mar 5, 2018

Yes. Amazon seems to have a standard 5/15/40/40 vesting structure.

Amazon gte305f Mar 5, 2018

Keep in mind Amazon uses stock value at time of vesting for total comp calculation. You will not likely see refreshers for salary in years 1-4 due to how well the stocks are doing. Looks like your TCT is just under 220K for Amazon.

Apple fung OP Mar 5, 2018

That's good to know! Thanks for that!

Amazon RNBv18 Mar 6, 2018

Not true all the time. I got stock refresher at the begining of my third year.

Amazon biRJ17 Mar 5, 2018

How many years of experience?

Apple fung OP Mar 5, 2018

Close to 5. 2 years outside the states and close to 3 within.

Amazon 🔥Fi Mar 6, 2018

2 extra things you might want to consider once you get the Google offer with compensation. 1) WA doesn't have Income Tax which translates into a larger take home amount. 2) Seattle is not cheap but is definitely cheaper than the Bay area, especially rent.

BitTitan cViM50 Mar 6, 2018

160k base for SDEII. I heard max salary for amzn was around $165 so I'm curious as that seems super high..

Amazon bratswurst Mar 6, 2018

^ exactly! Base 160k for SDE2 is seriously high

Apple fung OP Mar 8, 2018

The Google recruiter got back with the same comment. He said I may not get year on year increments at Amazon.

Qualcomm spot16 Mar 13, 2018

Your google offer is low

Turbonomic PYpb36 Mar 21, 2018

I have an interview with them this week for the same sde 2 role. Would appreciate if you share some feedback and some insights on how the interview went. Thanks