Google hiring policy change. Will no longer do team matching, it'll become team-based hiring instead. - Before: 4 algo rounds general hire -> Hiring committee - Now: 2 algo round + 1 domain knowledge + hiring manager round (all team-specific) The rationale is current system outputs a lot of false positive and false negative. Many folks game this system, resulting in a large number of experienced background matching people that Google can not recruit. This has affected a lot of Google's business. For example: a VR specialist is unlikely to give up his technical expertise to do a recommendation system instead, or grind LC. In addition, not all jobs have same coding requirements, and so on. The new hiring process comes effective on 04.01. Now the question: will Meta follow suit? #google #meta #facebook #microsft #amazon #tech
Ah yes, my friend forwarded that memo. Can confirm it's effective 4/1
Wait fr? Not an April Fools???
This is the weirdest April fool's
its still april 1 yes
“A players hire A players, B players hire C players”. Wait until some B players take some control and start sneaking C players into the company. While I acknowledge these problems exist, when the hiring is at HM level you will find lots of HMs bringing their friends from other companies. There are those incompetent all-talk monkeys who follow their friend managers from one company to another and I can see now that their next stop is Google. Kiss goodbye to consistent hiring bar across the company and soon you will need to conduct full interviews to move between teams I was really depressed reading about the changes and I personally know incompetent people who will move to Google specifically through this door The other big problem is that the perf evaluation system can’t get rid of bad hires because PIP is so hard and slow already, and the HM will defend the friends they hired. Even worse, the incompetent engineers I am talking about are experts in backstabbing, taking credit from others and all un-Googley behaviors you can think of. Yuch!
Good. Their earlier system sucked.
Just because you couldn't crack it?
I did. Chose apple. Hated the fact that you have to pick a team based on half hour team match call. Also IMHO, it almost seems they can automatize their interview process via software a little advanced than hackerrank, it's so mechanical. No introduction or talking about experience. Here is a leetcode question, solve it! Literally on repeat. I understand that they want to standardized it - but based on experience of several of my friends including mine our collective impression is that it is NOT very standardized. So yes, I would stand by my opinion that the interview process sucked, even if I hadn't cleared it.
April fools?
Meta's bootcamp model is better than team match. Seems to be a good compromise vs. completely shifting to team based hiring. Probably harder for Google to implement now though given how old and large they are.
For the very same example op mentioned, can a VR specialist guarantee to land in a oculus team that he/she is interested in? If not, how can he/she be confident to sign the offer?
Certain tech roles at Meta are team based. Usually specialist roles. Recruiter will route them to the correct path. They still go through bootcamp, but their team is predetermined. Doesn't Google do this too for things like AI?
Team matching was always a poor model, it has way too much bias.
From what I heard Meta matches team once you go through the boot camps. It is already different from Google, no?
Sounds like Google going to Amazon's model, which is dumb
Shhh… let us send our toxic managers to Google now. They will also take their shitty minions with them. It is a win win
The minions won't leave Amazon. They have the bananas! 🍌🍌🍌🍌
Good. That whole system was weird.
Google is weird
It sure is