Given the wait and uncertainty in US regarding green cards, I have started to think about moving to Canada. I understand comp is lower but I would prefer peace of mind over that. How many of you are trying or in the process of doing so? I also know hardware jobs are limited there but trying to see if people in hardware did make the switch too and what was your experience like?
^MAGAot spotted
I don't understand what's wrong in going back to your own country.I haven't said anything wrong.
Yep Canada is a great option. One of my old friend moved to Canada after spending 10 years in USA.
How was his experience?
He got job in 2-3 months and pretty happy. He will come back to USA after getting his citizenship.
Stay here. Maybe next elections will change USA immigration.
What makes you think that? Dems ain't changing a thing. Trump could but he will be going thru endless scandals pushed through media and no one will talk about immigration either. Also that's if Reps hold both chambers. They will likely lose senate in 2020 even if Trump is electedm
I know at least three families who did exactly that while we decided to stay. All of them are Canadian citizens and happy now. One family is back to US.
TN or h1b... there are other options for Canadians as well.
I can’t tell you how long and but it will be quicker than a green card for sure .. :)
Depending on where you go, weather can be harsh esp if you are in Toronto or east coast. Vancouver is nice. Pay is definitely lower. Rents are super expensive especially in big cities like Toronto and Vancouver. Also you need to live here 3yrs out of 5yrs to keep your PR before you can apply for citizenship. It may be worth it but it certainly isn't that quick - 5yrs and still waiting.
Canada gives PR under 6 months to qualified candidates under express entry. And citizenship within 3 year thereafter. Compare this with US which has infinite wait for Indian citizens and then at least 5 year to citizenship if you do get a GC...finally. Off course this is assuming rules don’t change during this long wait which disqualify you. .. it’s a no brainer choice IMHO. Harsh weather should be last thing on anyone’s mind. :)
I don't kniw about 6mo. I went thru express entry. It's still almost 5yrs in. Next year I can apply for citizenship. And may be the year after than I can leave. Catch is if you leave after pr and don't come back within 2yrs you lose your pr. I am not saying it's not better compared to US. But people seem to think it's super quick. It's not. At least 5yrs..
What is the housing cost there in Vancouver? How much is the pay lower compared to USA for same company like Amazon or Microsoft?
If you're primarily concerned with comp Canada may not be the best. But if you look at Canada holistically, in terms of societal values, crime rate, education, health care, etc., I think it's a far better place (although depends on the city and of course your own beliefs and values) to live and put down long term roots (start a family, raise kids, etc.). Toronto is a marvelous city, far better than the Bay Area and comparable metropolitan areas in the USA. Toronto is also going through an incredible tech boom (current ML/AI boom kinda started in Toronto; Toronto and Montreal are two of the world's eminent centers for ML/AI research). Weather is of course a bit harsh during the winter, so itll likely take some time to get acclimatized. BTW I've lived in both Canada and the USA (Bay Area) for extended periods of time.
Have you noticed any significant difference in lifestyle here vs US? Can you elaborate?
Hard to explain, you have to spend long periods of time in either country to appreciate the differences. One thing which is pretty clear for me is that (i know I shouldn't generalize but...) I feel Canadians are less materialistic, and in general more concerned about the welfare of others, and that ethos permeates to many different facets of society. Simply put Canada is where I'd want to raise my kids. Maybe ideally you spend your twenties and thirties in the USA making money, then move to Canada to spend the rest of your life :) It's also noticeably cleaner, far lower crime rate, etc....Canadian cities are always at/near the top in various livability indices, easily outperforming American cities.
Toronto housing is almost out of reach for any middle class tho. Last time I checked people are doing 4hrs commute to Toronto just to afford housing outside GTA.
How is it worse than the Bay Area, NYC, etc? Toronto housing was artificially inflated last few years, it's more than likely to reset to a more economically stable state soon...
Move to Sweden
Have you or know someone who has done it?