Tech IndustryNov 3, 2019
IntelGWGA84

How do referrals from total strangers help??

I keep seeing these requests for referrals on here. I thought that was strange. A referral is supposed to be from a person that knows you well enough that they can vouch for your skills or character or something like that. How does a referral from random strangers help? But even stranger than that is I see people volunteering to refer that person. I guess most companies pay for referrals. Is that the motivation? Have people corrupted what is supposed to be an honor system into a sleazy money-making business?

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Cornerstone Vtyi00 Nov 3, 2019

You haven’t been involved with much recruiting efforts, have you? You are vouching for a phone screen not for quality or for the company to abandon its due diligence Also referral bonuses generally don’t pay out for 60-90 days after hire.

Intel GWGA84 OP Nov 3, 2019

Lol... this is hilarious... referral for a phone screen secured via an online text-based app, where you haven't spoken to the person and don't even know if they can talk. If companies are going to do their due diligence anyways, why not just do that with the regular list of applications. Well who am I to stop them if they want to splurge on referral payouts.

Rubrik RLtv73 Nov 3, 2019

Do we all agree that all resumes that are incoming are pretty much never looked at? Even if they are looked at, would you as a technical person know better or worse than the recruiter who will use filtering tools?

Oracle Sockets Nov 3, 2019

I think most referrals here are basically entering someone's name in a referral system and leaving it at that. It is not running your resume to the specific recruiter. Nor is it walking your resume and handing it to the hiring manager with a good word or two.

Intel GWGA84 OP Nov 3, 2019

No I get that. I was questioning the rationale behind it. If this is the case, then the regular applications list and the referrals list would effectively be the same list.

Oracle Sockets Nov 3, 2019

The motivation is money from the referral and basically no penalty for submitting a bad one. Perhaps a bit of feelgood for helping a stranger out mixed in there as well. However, I do think it does ruin the whole referral process. But you could argue referrals lead to cronyism anyways

Humatics ☃️☃️☃️☃️ Nov 3, 2019

You can make 5-10K referral depending on their level. I’d refer a random if their resume looks good and they allowed me to phone screen them beforehand.

Intel GWGA84 OP Nov 3, 2019

Yeah I figured money is the motivation.

Humatics ☃️☃️☃️☃️ Nov 3, 2019

Yes, but you don’t want to be the guy who refers shitty candidates as well lol

Expedia Group lineage Nov 3, 2019

So speaking for our company only, its somewhere in between. The referral is online, but the system asks how you know the person (personal contact, academic, professional or linked in) , theoretically you should have an opinion about there qualification, but that could be just looking at their resume and making sure they are in the ballpark of qualified. The resume does go to the recruiter but it guarantees nothing in term of contact especially for a role with many applicants, though I have been told the recruiter is supposed to phone screen the person. In any case it's a waste of time to refer someone clearly not qualified. And the bonus is only paid if the person stays employed for X period of time. If I know someone personally, I will do both a official referral and reach out to the hiring manager directly...

Google The Old Nite Nov 3, 2019

Not all resumes get looked at when applying normally. So if you think the candidate's resume meets the bar for the next stage, it doesn't corrupt the system. Basically, just an extra resume-screener.