The levels.fyi data shows a significant gap with other big tech. Assuming that MSFT hiring bar is also high / tech employees are of good quality, how is MSFT able to retain the talent?
Strong financials as a stable company, and good pay. Good work life balance on some teams. Lots of different areas to work. Mostly... the people that are on Blind and Levels/Comp.fyi represent a small group of tech workers who want to push boundaries and get more $$$. Realistically most people in tech are just content
TC is less than half of what I care about in a job.
Are they things that are very hard to get outside of MSFT? Why not get paid well and have good wlb etc?
Sometimes. But if I've found them here why bother looking elsewhere? I already have more money than I will ever spend.
No state income tax in WA
There is a lot of tech positions in WA, including Amazon and non-Amazon ones
Curious. How often do Microsoft employees go to Amazon, versus the opposite?
The ones who have settled down in Redmond probably can’t even fathom commuting all the way to Downtown/SLU.
Amazon moving 3 buildings to Bellevue
MSFT is better than 99.9% of companies so there are enough people happy working there or dream of working there.
In terms of culture?
In terms of brand and reputation. Have you ever worked at a company outside of a tech hub? They are absolute garbage in comparison.
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Tangent: IMO stating G figure in thousands and Fb in M makes the numbers look further apart than they actually are, at a glance.
Lots of good engineers dont have good interview skills nor do they want to go through the hassle.
Agree on this
Could you argue that the ones that do may actually have the drive needed to take their career to the next level.
They don’t. Most of them are Indians on H1Bs.
True
Ver true.
I think there might be more of a difference for engineering roles? The gap may not be much if any on the business/sales side since the PM Pay bands look pretty similar to me. I was recruited by them twice while getting my MBA. Microsoft attracts talent due to the better WLB and wage/hour. MSFT it’s $67.72/hr, Google $61.33/hr and Amazon was $45.15/hr. Source: Poets & Quants.
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Elaborate on the Oracle thing please. I was thinking about going back to Microsoft but is that a bad deal in your opinion?