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Question about women in their 30’s?
I have an offer from AT&T in an interesting area. I have not seen the salary etc. I am guessing its way lower than my Google TC. If we disregard the TC, what are the pros? Are there layoffs coming? How is the management for employee development/growth? Are there opportunities to learn and grow? Is there toxic management in some groups? Or management training creates a standard? What about wlb? [Where else can I look for a job? I am pretty decent in job interviews leetcode or non leetcode]. current TC 270-325
AT&T was the place to be 70 years ago. It went downhill a little bit since then. Source - I'm Claude Shannon
1. Layoffs, yes many many layoffs 2. Mandated uncompromising 3 day RTO to a few hub locations. Even though they never required this prepandemic and teams are spread across the US. 3. Next to no career growth unless you cuddle up to a manager 4. WLB used to be the selling point but now they just fire coworkers and dump the work on the remainder. Cost cutting mode. It's a shrinking company now. It is entirely cost focused due to our shitty earnings and insanely high debt load. Feels like a 180 degree turn from one year ago to today.
For the love of God why would you ever leave Google for AT&T? My father has worked there for decades and I've heard years of stories about bad management, terrible corporate policy, layoffs even when the economy was good, and treating the employees like garbage. Go read about what the CEO just did with the RTO "hubs" plan. The company barely innovates and basically is an old name brand that white labels and implements solutions made by others. Almost nothing in house. AT&T hasn't been a hub for talent since the 90's, and even then was its tail end. Stay away!!!!!
OP is smoking 🚬 something to even consider this move.
A lot less fights since RTO happened
I'll try to give you an honest answer.. Given your background at Google, I'd assume you would end up in a position where layoffs are not a concern. As a SWE, if you're on a good team there are opportunities for growth and exploring latest technologies. I wanted to pursue some ML applications on our team and we're now using them in prod... But on the other hand you can also end up dealing with some legacy technology just to keep things working at times. I've always had great management, but I've also seen terrible management. The key is simply don't join a team where the management show red flags. WLB is the best thing that AT&T offers. I probably would have jumped companies otherwise. I'm at ~6 weeks off plus holidays and sick days. I've occasionally had to work some weird or longer hours, but that's pretty rare.
Which location are you in?
Atlanta
Don’t join, low compensation and bad management
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