Everyone and their mommas are running into bootcamps or trying to get into software for the high pay and other benefits. So when is over saturation hitting? Or when do employers realize they can start hiring everyone for less pay? Do you think this field will be as lucrative in 10-20 years? Two of my old friends who have been NEET since highschool 5-7 years ago are planning to go into bootcamp for software and like 3 others are trying to change careers.
you do realize that not a lot of people can do what we do right. you sound like a pm / someone non technical. engineers are underpaid if anything
Does it matter if they can do what engineers do if they get hired at the end of the day?
Bro what computer science is the easiest part of “engineering” if you want to calll it that. No other discipline can be self taught like CS Lol
Just because everyone wants doesn’t mean that everyone can. GCA will always be a key differentiator in a highly technical environment. Let the monkeys code. Learn and do something a new grad can’t.
Do you have examples of a skill that new grads can’t?
Building and launching a scalable and secure product!
Just having saturation doesn’t do anything. That’s the reason why FAANG is such a name.
Bro no offense if you work for northrop grumman, then you are for sure easily replaceable...
No duh
Oof lol
OP is just a sour product manager repulsed by his own TC. Wants everyone else to be screwd. Get a life OP
Everything comes and goes in cycles. Compare tech salaries in late 90s to tech salaries in early 2000s. Comparing banking salaries in early 2000s to post-2008....
Would you be kind enough to share the actual numbers?
Eventually software will be the new blue collar work. Get that bread while you can.
Getting..
I went to a shitty high school where half the people went to the army. A quarter of them told me “they were going to make bank as a web dev” after enrolling in boot camp. Legit every single one of them failed.
Yeah people don't understand this. They think anyone can just do a bootcamp and get into Facebook or Uber. Morons literally. At best they can manage a low tier WITCH. And that's neither "software" or part of "this industry". That's essentially call center work.
Also, every "legit" software engineer is tasked with building and maintaining systems that have 1000s of requests per minute and 99.999999 SLA. The folks that think these people don't deserve high pay can seriously go fk emselves. Let's see how your product manager is helpful during a service outage.
I have done around 100 interviews and I am yet to see a boot camp grad that is on the same level as our co-ops, the industry still have a learning curve that is longer than 3 months.
Soon.
You think with enough practice, I will consistently be ahead of the curve or will I have to be fighting an uphill battle of resume liars