I am not liking my current work at the company I'm at. I somehow landed a high TC and it increased further because of stock appreciation. The current job makes my life a living he'll though. Current TC is 400k in MCOL. 200k base and 200 equity per year I interviewed at Hubspot thinking they would get close to 350k and I was willing to take a 50k hit just to get out of a bad situation. Hubspot came back with an offer but I was underwhelmed by the offer. It's a massive step down from my current TC. Even after negotiating, I think I can pull it to 320k. Given that Hubspot also has PIP culture, does it make sense to make this transition? I have a few other offers but they are not even worth mentioning. I also have interviews lined up with Google and Amazon.
Don't take a pay cut
320k doesn’t sound bad if can pull though
See if you get the offer from Amazon first. HubSpot has become Amazon lite with less pay, so if you get an offer from Amazon, take that. Otherwise take the hubspot offer. It’s still a good company
IMO it’s not even close lol. I was at Amazon for many years and HubSpot is way better. I thought I had grass is greener mentality but the amount of shit you have to deal with at Amazon is vastly greater than anything you’d ever have to deal with at HubSpot.
I think a lot of people like to speculate because they’ve never worked at Amazon and want to guess what it’s like. But at HubSpot there is no forced pip quota, mounds of escalations, project status requests, hundreds of unread messages from 30+ people, mounds of unread emails, mounds of unwarranted meeting invitations from random ppl wanting something from you, etc. oncall is way more chill even at the worst teams. At Amazon I had to juggle my IC output with all the shit coming my way by managing priorities and expectations aggressively. Here, I feel great because I can actually code in peace.
Can share your interview experience?
Hubs doesn’t have a PIP culture. The company gave everyone in engineering the biggest raises of their lives, then said “hey we want to hold a high bar on performance”, and now all the blind users are freaking out. Are there PIPs? Sure, I’ve seen a few. Did those people deserve to be on them? Objectively, yes. But it’s still rare. Hubs is still a fantastic placeto work, great WLB, generally smart and chill people, and I think there is a really solid case stock appreciation.
Visible’ish, with large doses of thankless work. Just align with your manager on what you should be doing and your fine.
Does Hubspot have PIP culture?
I don’t understand. Is the position for a senior software engineer or a principal software engineer?? There’s a big difference
It’s a decent offer.
I have collected data points that say otherwise. I have seen base of 240k. Equity is comparable but the base is definitely lower than what they usually offer for SSE2
It is a lower offer for SSE2