Call me cold-hearted or anything you want. HR and recruiters are the least professionals I like. I remember my hard times looking for a job. I interacted with many recruiters that ghosted me. Before joining Microsoft, I passed Meta(Facebook at that time) interview. I received a verbal offer and was excited. I waited, waited, but nobody reached out to me for a written offer. It was horrible, I really needed a job, and they ghosted me after a verbal offer. I saw the recruiter got laid off during Meta layoffs. Recruiter could just update me, but they ignored. She was quite online on Linkedin sharing motivational posts. Of course, I cannot generalize everybody. I feel sorry for kind people, but most recruiters I interacted with were horrible. TC: 540 YOE: 14
I've worked with many amazing HR and recruitment folks. Doesn't everyone is amazing. Your attitude about it seems unhealthy tbh...
Did they get laid off?
I can’t agree more. Over my 10yo+ career, I haven’t met a single genuinely useful professional from this domain. Underqualified and overpaid…
Unfortunately they tend to be arrogant and think highly of themselves. Additionally, they are vocal about wrong points and behave as if they are above everyone else
They should focus on fixing their own attitude first and perhaps one day they can gain my trust back
Just remember that when HR gets laid off. Engineers closely follow. I’m a SWE and when I see HR get laid off, I take that as a really bad sign for SWEs
You don't have to be genius to understand this. HRs are the first hired ones and first fired ones.
Nonsense in my opinion. HR layoffs are not correlated with tech layoffs
Happened to me with Meta. They could have simple said you are no longer being considered.
We discussed numbers, and locations verbally. It was very emotional. I was long looking for jobs, rejection after rejection. I was over the clouds and ghosted at that stage. It would have taken for them to say “sorry, the position is closed but we will keep you in loop”
I’m an AWS recruiter and didn’t get laid off. I’m definitely noting some of these comments. Going forward, I won’t feel bad when I call to reject people, like I have in the past.
Why do you feel bad when calling to reject? Are you incapable of doing your job? I worked for AWS 7 years, I know how things work there. Just do you job
Literally proves the point about general attitude. Why do you put yourself above others “I won’t feel bad when I call to reject you”? Try to be nicer to people… Even if you are changing life of one person, you can create so much positivity. Instead you focus on how YOU feel when you REJECT someone
Microsoft recruiters are the worst. They tend to be contractors with limited communication and grammar skills. They also don't have a presence on Linkedin as they lazily look for internal candidates.
Totally agree. They ghosted me more than Meta 😀 And looked incompetent too.
I think there are good professionals and shitty professionals in any role. Shitty engineers that can’t produce a non buggy code, shitty PMs that only talk, shitty designers that do who knows what and shitty recruiters that ghost you. At the same time there are great ones too. The ones who give you proper feedback and sufficient info to prepare for interviews, that listen to your concerns and keep honest. That fight for a better offer for you that might benefit them or not. And some of them get laid of as well…. So all in all, there’s just plenty of good and shitty professionals, it’s just that we tend to remember the shitty ones, while we should commemorate the shitty ones in sand and the good ones in stone… In practice it’s the opposite. p.s. not a recruiter, hr, had shitty experiences as well
You are not cold hearted, this is how you feel and stay true ! God Speed !
The best recruiters I've interacted with came from companies with a good work culture, while the worst are vice versa.
Ok: you’re cold hearted