LayoffsAug 24, 2022
Amazongmlhkmhkl

I survived an Amazon PIP. Ask me anything

I survived the actual PIP, not devlist/focus/pivot. I'll try to answer as many as possible in a couple of days. If you think a question is relevant "like" it so I see it first Granted, it was a long time ago, so not sure the info will be that relevant. $450

Qualcomm goddoggo Aug 24, 2022

Did you look for other jobs during PIP?

Amazon gmlhkmhkl OP Aug 24, 2022

No, in my case my goal was achievable and I had confidence I could beat it. I casually looked for jobs, but I beat the PIP before I found something else.

Grab Kaeka Aug 24, 2022

Was your work drastically different during pip than normal?

Amazon gmlhkmhkl OP Aug 25, 2022

yes, I was given a smaller scope for a short period of time. Before the PIP, I had a bunch of admin tasks that added no value. For a couple of months, I had to deliver only high impact tasks to prove I was meeting the bar.

Wish ohWish Aug 24, 2022

Tell me more

Grab Kaeka Aug 24, 2022

Whats the key point that got you out of pip? Did you resent your manager for putting you there?

Amazon gmlhkmhkl OP Aug 24, 2022

misaligned expectations. I did a pretty decent job at keeping my task list relatively clean/done, but my manager wanted me to tackle long term projects that I took a long time to complete. I never knew that's what he really wanted until I was presented the PIP document. I think what my manager did was a wake up call to always check on people to ensure what you're doing is what they want.... I don't think it was fair. I wish I had gotten a fair and square feedback with a chance to improve before the "improve this or you're fired"

Apple HarkonnenV Aug 24, 2022

This is good feedback of how you need to be prepared to deal with bad managers. Your manager failed by surprising you with this. A reminder to proactively ask for feedback.

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Zoom ChickFilAA Aug 24, 2022

Was it justified or a shitty manager?

Amazon gmlhkmhkl OP Aug 24, 2022

I am biased to answer this 100% objectively, but I wasn't given any warning that I wasn't meeting expectations. No signs and my manager was an introvert. I wish I had a more fair feedback process with a chance to improve before getting this serious.

Amazon new sde Aug 24, 2022

How long is focus generally? Do we get enough time during focus to LC and GTFO?

Amazon gmlhkmhkl OP Aug 24, 2022

I was PIPed before focus existed. But, in my experience as a manager, it takes several months in focus for you to file a pivot process... luckily I never had to pivot anyone the problem is the employee doesn't always know he/she is in focus.

Adobe pipcount1 Aug 25, 2022

Perfectly said in the last time what’s the problem is ! Focus is such a shady secretive process. No duration, appeal or rules around it.

Meta wp01s Aug 24, 2022

How did you survive it? How long was the pip? another person in your team is pip'd for quota?

Amazon gmlhkmhkl OP Aug 24, 2022

I met all of my goals in 2 months. It took some pushing and another month for my manager remove me from the system.

Meta wp01s Aug 24, 2022

Another person is put into pip quota?

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Amazon gmlhkmhkl OP Aug 25, 2022

haha I am a mortal since I almost died

QuEST Global dLsD11 Aug 25, 2022

May be it was a set up to make you find more lambs for the slaughter. Old trick to let one prisoner live and escape so he can lead them to more

Meta juanć· Aug 24, 2022

When was it? What was your level? And what is your level now? Where is you and where is the manager that PIP you now?

Amazon gmlhkmhkl OP Aug 24, 2022

too many questions. What do you really want to know?

Meta juanć· Aug 24, 2022

What was your level when you entered PIP? And what is your level now?