“East Asia” = Japan, China, Korea God, I hate being Vietnamese (esp when I’m surrounded by all these East Asians, reminding me of how I was born into the worst country) As of late, I have seen a lot of East Asians straight out attacking Vietnamese people here on blind. They call us dark, short, monkeys with the ugliest language on the planet. I’ve even seen my own Vietnamese trying to claim racial blood ties with the Southern Chinese in an attempt to discredit our Southeast Asian bloodline and be East Asian instead. Hey fellow Vietnamese. I understand why some of you want to link the Vietnamese to the South Chinese. I empathize with your feelings, and want you to know that I used to feel the same way, wishing to be East Asian instead of Vietnamese, so I understand. I was raised on Japanese anime(HUGE Toonami addict back in the day) and KPop, with a family who loooved historical Chinese stuff (I used to pretend to be a Japanese girl and transform into Sailor Mercury all the time). In contrast, Vietnam didn't really have anything we could be proud of, neither our economy, our culture, our language, nor our people. As a kid, the last thing I wanted to be was Vietnamese, because compared to the aforementioned three East Asian groups, we were quite a bit more darker-skinned, had more Southeast Asian facial features, shorter, and (I'm ashamed to say this) I also thought we were less cultured. The way I found self-worth was by trying to link the Vietnamese to the East Asians. I mean, we're right under China - we MUST have some sort of genetic link, right? I tried really really hard to find these connections. I looked up studies to try and prove that the Vietnamese were close to Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese people, even when East Asians called me "Vietnamese monkey" at school. Looking back, I knew that this was an inferiority complex. And tbh, I still do have quite a bit of this inferiority complex. The Viet Kieu that I grew up with also all absolutely despised Vietnam, and we wished to be East Asian. The easiest way to do this was by looking to the people in South China, the closest neighbor whom we share a border with. As an adult now, it's sad because I still feel the effects of this trauma. My crush back in 2003 was a hot KPop star. It was 2013 it was a ripped Northern Chinese actor. Im 2023 it was a luscious Japanese athlete. I’ve never felt anything for Southeast Asian men. Vietnam is still far, far behind the three major East Asian countries, and even though I've tried really hard to get approval from East Asians around me, it hasn't worked. I purposely don't hang out with other Vietnamese, because I wanted to show off that I am a "special" Vietnamese who only hangs out with higher-class East Asians. At the end of the day, I've realized that I'm still Vietnamese. I've tried telling people that I'm Korean or Chinese before, and it made me feel much more proud inside, but a lot of times, people didn't even believe me. They told me that I looked way too "Viet", oftentimes with an air of disgust. I've realized that no matter how much I want to be linked to East Asia, it won't happen. Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese will still look down on us and think we're an uncivilized bunch of apes. With that said, I am still very proud to be Vietnamese. I’ll admit: Some times when I’m depressed, I wish I were Korean or Chinese or Japanese, but that’s definitely not all the time. It's a hard pill to swallow, and I can't say that I've swallowed it yet. But, I am slowly trying to find ways to be proud of Vietnam. Did you know that a company from our country, Vinfast, has made it's way over to America and will become the next major leader in EV vehicles? Did you know that sometimes, white people can't tell East Asians and Vietnamese apart? I like to try to take advantage of this fact to tell them that I'm Korean, Japanese, or Chinese. Did you know that Vietnam is slowly becoming one of the greatest economies in the world? Our growth rate is truly something to be admired. I understand why you're trying so hard to link yourself to the Chinese, because I used to be that way. Truth be told, I still kind of am. It's hard to be Vietnamese in the States, especially surrounded by East Asians. But trust me, life does get better, even for us Vietnamese. Sure, we may never be accepted by the Koreans, Chinese, or Japanese. But, we can still watch our favorite movies on Netflix. We can still eat our favorite foods from Vietnam even here in the States. (Ask me where to find the best Bò né !) We might not be able to marry up with an East Asian, but there are plenty of handsome Vietnamese people. I hope you find peace, and I wish for happiness to find all Viet Kieu. We will eventually have something to be proud of as a country; I know it. Just look at our roaring economy! Just to clear one thing up: I AM proud to be Vietnamese. It’s just that sometimes, I wish I weren’t. I wish you the best as a fellow Vietnamese. Việt Nam muôn năm!
You can be proud that your poor country fought off the most powerful country in the world. Vietnamese are good fighters. Much respect. Also Vietnam is 100x more beautiful than America.
I don’t believe in that tbh. If the US nuked us (Vietnam), we would have been toast.
Yet, the US didn’t nuke you, right?
You don’t have to proud of your ethnicity or the country that you were born in. “National/ethnic pride” is social engineering to get us to work for someone else’s vision. Just go and get your bag
Thanks and appreciate the validation. If someone speaks to me in Vietnamese now, I won’t even respond lol I tried to get my friends to speak to me in Japanese, Chinese, or Korean, but then the issue is I can’t understand them. And yes, I studied each language extensively through anime, kpop, and Chinese drama. So now I only respond when spoken to in English.
> If someone speaks to me in Vietnamese now, I won’t even respond lol Sure you do you. But imo that will lead you to cut off contact with friends and family. Just be ready to accept the consequences
you should stop trying to attach your pride on any extrinsic factors. you can and should be proud of being viet without having to justify it. if the viet economy shrinks or vinfast fails are you gonna be ashamed of being viet? true pride comes from within. its easy to blame others but consider working with a therapist on your inner self and pride.
I already dont like being viet tho. The Viet economy shrinking or vinfast going bankrupt isnt gonna change that.
unfortunately you can't change who you are. what you can do is learn to accept who you are and be proud of your people for just the way they are and not for any external factors
lol who cares about what East Asians think.
Vietnamese people are dope.
Thank you!!
Wtf did I just read. Be proud of your roots. Vietnam isn't looked down upon in the west. Besides as you grow up, you will learn to be comfortable of who you are. Till then you will try to be everything other than yourself.
We are most definitely looked down upon as “jungle asians” by white ppl, and as black ppl-adjacents by East Asians. And I turn 40 this year… not sure how much growing up i have left to do
Vietnam is not looked down upon. You guys thrashed the french, the americans, the chinese and stopped pol pot's genocide and are now the fastest growing country in southeast asia despite being carpetbombed to dirt, and you never used a victim card or resorted to terrorist attacks on civilian noncombatants like a certain <large> group of hypocrites. That's more accomplishments than most in the last century of post-colonial countries. I thought we indians were self-hating but this is really next level stuff.
To be fair, none of the three groups, Chinese Japanese and Korean, get along well with other two, there is just so much hate in that area, due to historical reasons and toxic egotism.
At least among them it’s more of a “brotherly”-type of rivalry With Vietnam, they don’t even view us as human
OP where the hell do you get this stuff? Japanese and Korean “brotherly” rivalry? View Vietnamese as sub-human? It’s all in your head man.
Idk your particular situation but I'm a non-Viet who grew up near a Little Saigon and went to school with a lot of children and grandchildren of Vietnamese refugees and immigrants. Rows upon rows of small businesses run by honest and hard working families turned into kids accomplishing extraordinary things in every walk of life. Those same Vietnamese kids grew up to be fighter pilots, skilled tradesmen, doctors, engineers, and even respected lawmakers. I don't know what a better word than pride could be, but it makes me happy to know when I close my eyes and imagine Vietnamese people, that I think of those kids and their families. Be proud of your heritage even if you stand alone, and use that pride to reach new heights.
Thanks…. I guess you haven’t seen the Vietnam that I know
No I haven't, but where my family is from is pretty much around the same if not worse (not trying to one-up you, just a general issue with egregious corruption). My parents returned to the old country for retirement and wept when they arrived and realized it wouldn't be possible.
I’ve seen this posted several times over the last 6 months m, with slightly different details.
Same. That's what happens when someone goes off their meds
I apologize. I really just struggle with the bad luck I was dealt in being born Viet. The responses do help me cope, though
I guess u never visit Vietnam!
I have. Went to Nha Trang (my parent’s hometown) after covid last year, and obviously Hanoi as well. Still didn’t like it
Based on the vinfasts I've seen and been in, they're definitely not in their way to being the next EV leader
Really? What about Vinfast isn’t good?
Wrong question. What about Vinfast that is good ?