Tech IndustrySep 15, 2021
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IBM fellow to Facebook software engineer?

What happened to Sam Lightstone? Is it because he’s joining a competitor and can’t have a higher title?

Microsoft zinfandel Sep 15, 2021

Software Engineer can mean any IC level

Microsoft bobcat3 Sep 15, 2021

In the beginning, they all have software engineer but change after few weeks (after boot camp?)

Facebook kWXj08 Sep 15, 2021

Facebook Software Engineer can be anything from a new grad to a Fellow. The title doesn’t change as you move up. You get a level, but that’s secret. It’s to encourage decisions based on the level of the idea, not their idea of your level.

Amazon sad.life OP Sep 15, 2021

Thanks. Sound a good idea!

Salesforce Jack861 Sep 15, 2021

Does he need to attend bootcamp?

United Overseas Bank Limited (U s4f4 Sep 16, 2021

On his LinkedIn description he says he "joined the technical leadership at Facebook" although the title is still software engineer. But for sure he got downleveled a lot... Just a proof of how terrible IBM strategy of consulting (selling) rather than building stuff has been for employees and shareholders.

IBM rLeI77 Sep 18, 2021

Or maybe he just didn’t update the title, or will do so in a bit.

IBM eDAi02 Sep 16, 2021

Most IBM Fellows aren’t that impressive. They just played a political game to get a title. 🤷

IBM Ermnoo Sep 16, 2021

Played the game and stayed at IBM forever

IBM bbWI22 Sep 17, 2021

I’d say Sam Lightstone is a counterexample. I’ve had a very pleasant experience working with him and is more technically inclined than other fellows I have worked with.

IBM Ermnoo Sep 16, 2021

Never met them but good for them. Definitely a step up.

IBM bbWI22 Sep 17, 2021

Probably E7 min. I know IBM DEs that have gone to FB/G as E7/L7

Coinbase eVdN15 Sep 18, 2021

L7 should be 900k - 1M how much is ibm DE?

IBM bbWI22 Sep 18, 2021

400k-500k max in the Bay Area