The world as we know it stands on the shoulders of old boomers with skills they’ve been practicing for decades, who are retiring faster than apprentices can be found to train under them. These people maintain all of the systems and infrastructure that you rely on either directly or indirectly in your daily life, and even low level jobs in these critical industries already have staff shortages as young people continue to flock to tech and corporate jobs. In the coming years we’re going to be in an emergency situation with this lopsided labor pool, companies and institutions will be desperate to fill gaps. These aren’t jobs like SWE, these jobs are necessary to keep society running. Training isn’t something that can happen overnight, especially with the lack of people to DO the training, and these jobs can’t easily be filled through immigration. So if you’re entry level or if you’re in college right now, do yourself a favor and get out of tech and into a specialist role in civil engineering, water/sanitation, construction, transportation, agriculture, environmental services.
Give an example of a job ? Otherwise this is just a load of BS
Aircraft Mechanic. Water Resource Engineer. Infrastructure Planning. Railroad Engineer. Maintenance Technician… etc etc
False equivalence. Our generation is still doing these jobs. The money hungry overeducated desk jobbers who are in tech now have boomer counterparts who were in even worse industries than tech, like finance and sales.
And stay poor? How will the new generation afford housing?
These jobs are paid poorly now but they won’t be in the future.
But no one knows the future. You could work in tech and get trained in parallel if you wanna make the bet it'll pop off. Personally, I love software engineering so that's a powerful motivator for me to just stay.
Tc GTFO
450k
Probably the right move for society. Unclear if it will be priced appropriately making it the right move for the individual
Not priced appropriately right now but there is a shortage now and the problem will continue to get worse. These jobs can’t just be cut, they’re necessary for society to function, so they’ll have to be paid more.
Paid more but never enough to own a home in the Bay Area
Are you offering $5 million insurance in case I follow your idea and it doesn’t work out?
Nope, take it or leave it. Tech is saturated now, has been, and will continue to become more so with more people all over the world getting in while companies shrink and consolidate and funding for new ones dry up. The opposite trajectory is happening in other industries. Think about it:)
Brooo go to finance instead. The first 5 years in tech you may earn more. But you'll cap out very quickly. Try investment banking M&A. A few years then go to the buy side and make a few mil a year. You IT people are getting skinned alive financially. It's like majoring in electrical engineering just to become a programmer.
How do you think AI will affect jobs in finance? Thinking ahead here.
lol I majored in EE to become a SWE, I guess I fucked myself
And zoomers will just rewrite everything in next js 😂🔫
But GitHub copilot told me I could use a floating point to store bank accounts. What do you mean we lose millions of dollars a day to floating point errors?
A fair point, but let’s not forget the gobs of articles out there showing a massive trajectory for cybersecurity jobs skyrocketing as the bar to maliciously attack a company’s assets sinks through the floor. To other points here about salaries not keeping up—IT and security for government, let alone the utility engineering positions mentioned continue to lag behind in cost of living increases and raises. Multiple states are considering subsidized housing or allowing state employees to move out of state due to the cost of living outpacing state budgets.
A union Journeyman (mid-level) electrician can make 100+ an hour in the bay… close to 200k a year. Sure a mid level engineer makes more for now, but salaries in tech are on a downward trajectory whereas salaries in the trades are on an upward one.
That's more because of the "union" part than the "journeyman" part lmao UPS drivers make 170k a year because of a union Meta shuttle drivers get more PTO than I do because they're in a union
Laughable
Terrible advice
!remindme 5 years
Block you must be so young and naive it’s kind of cute.