Wtf this is a pretty big move, don’t see any posts about it on here https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-layoffs-tpm-roles-instagram-job-cuts Non-paywall link: https://archive.ph/JUXsm
So, at Meta TPMs don't really have any impact anyway. They tend to overlap with senior eng and PMs. At other companies I've seen them add value. Here they are literally useless and sometimes a net negative with all the distractions they create.
Amazon has entered the chat
Agree.
This is a definitive answer to TPM being a scam
Companies can’t finance debt at 0 Apr anymore. Gotta cut. They can’t lay off engineers easily because who’s gonna do the work then so program management it is.
Zuck to Director of TPM: “What does a TPM do?” DTPM: …. Zuck: ……… DTPM: …………. Zuck: GTFO
who came up w/ that role anywayz?
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Say it with me : TPM and Product Managers were a bull market phenomenon. I am glad the sanity is coming back
PM will always be there tho, somebody gotta talk to users
Loads of PMs never ever talk to real users.
I mean..kinda got to hand it to them if they successfully bullshitted their way that far that's kinda amazing
Political skill in the corporate sector is valuable
TPM is total nonsense. If your engineers don’t have product vision, your product is screwed anyways. A regular PM should be bridging the gap between clients and engineers. A TPM’s job should be the SDE job. If your SDE’s can’t handle it, you hired wrong.
TPM <> PMT. Product actually drives roadmap and can interact with customers. TPMs are just in charge of internal processes they don’t have a clue about what the customers need. I’m a TAM and work regularly with Service Teams. PMTs will make the actual decisions, TPMs just chase engineers and ask them “how much engineering time is required” lol
TPM isn’t “product”. Not surprisingly a likely engineer has no clue what the fuck they are talking about
My hunch is TPM is not a useless role, but rather one that is amenable to automation with AI. Imagine a machine filing tasks for the managers to get done with their engineers. The next role to go is engineering manager.
I see no effective way to automate TPM
I assume you are a TPM, walk me through a few scenarios on how you are going to help to ship a product? I tell you release is in 3 months. We need to add two dozen new features to the previous release.
Amazon about to lose 20% of staff
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Another 20% of them are already SDM’s here.