7nm even later than projected. What sort of a shit show is Bob Swan running ? 2022-2023 for 7nm products ?! The U.S has completely lost its semiconductor manufacturing edge. I’m betting Apple’s decision to announce their move to internal silicon was because of this roadmap. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-announces-delay-to-7nm-processors-now-one-year-behind-expectations
Intel is still in business!? What year is it?
Glad I jumped this ship. Can't believe I still have some of the crap stock
I have the Same feeling
Maybe that’s why Jim Keller left this place about a month back
He was supposedly hired to fix the mess that was 10nm. Was it so bad that he bailed ? Maybe an Intel employee can enlighten us.
He cited health and personal reasons.
Intel at some point decided to make finance guys CEO , Brian Krazinich and this guy both focused on cutting costs and trying to optimize profits instead of paying employees a competitive wage. Between that and regular restructuring and layoffs , a lot of good people left and so the majority of what is left in intel are people either in dead towns like Folsom or people stuck on h1bs or losers (lol sorry)
They did hire smart tech folks like Raja, Keller and few others at the top couple of years back to fix all their issues along with discrete GPUs. Keller left, interesting to see what happens next after this announcement.
I did get the feeling that the company is turning into a Wipro. Generic low paid employees with bosses getting fat paychecks to play politics and justify their existence.
Intel had it all- how did they screw it up so badly ?
Accountants and politicians
The company structure promotes political cultures. There are just too many bozos running the show. Don’t be surprised if there is still no 7nm in 3 years.
There is only 1 way out for Intel. Separate process and pay those process engineerd a fuck ton of options and hope they will come thru. I am not surprised here. Intel has been relying on good process to beat out AMD all those years when AMD was with global foundary. Did you hear any Intel process engineers made out like a bandit?
It’s not about money or talent anymore. I think that ship has sailed. From where they are, it requires years of dedicated research with top class engineers to just catch up to TSMC. By which time TSMC will be two nodes ahead. So TSMC needs to fail bad, Intel needs to invest heavily in talent and fix its process and then maybe in 5 years they will bridge the gap. I don’t think Bob Swan has the patience or skill to handle something like that. It’s the end of an era. I remember maybe 20-30 years ago being fascinated with Intel fabs and the cutting edge work they were doing. It’s been destroyed by the suits.
Don't disagree with you. I am not even sure Intel ever said that they can fix their process.
Spin off PTD. Work with TSMC or Samsung foundries.. all those high Grade engineer and managers are expensive.. and not delivering.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-24/intel-considers-what-was-once-heresy-not-manufacturing-chips Intel going fabless ?
They will. It’s impossible for Intel to recover from this. While they are currently struggling to get 10nm into market, everyone is on 7nm and testing out 5nm. There is no competitive edge in their fab anymore. It will require years of focused research to even catch up to TSMC. This fall has been happening over a number of years. The bosses there just couldn’t fix it.
FWIW, Intel 10nm is comparable to TSMC's 7nm (all fabs measure differently). I agree with you though
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