I have a bias towards hiring job hoppers vs people who stayed > 3 yrs in one job. For me too its completely unthinkable to stay at one job for more then 2 yrs. Also, i found hoppers have better skills too. So what steps to take to increase the overall job hopping quotient in our companies and ensure that job hopping is encouraged?
I'm a job hopper so I'm biased, but I feel like job hopping means you're learning more new things, and you're hungry.
Or it means you have ADD and can't settle down. Either that or you have a low EQ and can't keep a job for very long.
This question is moot the way it's written. If you stay in the same job for 20 years but you switch your activity often, it tells me much more about the candidate than someone who keeps hopping every year. An year is not enough time to master something. It doesn't show commitment to what was delivered after it was delivered. I especially frown upon hoppers that constantly change area of work. It tells me that the person isn't performing well and keep jumping ships before they get caught.
Why not? Half a year is more then enough to deliver whole products and show impact.
Think how an architech builds a whole building in a few years and moves on to other projects. A software guy does not even require few years but a few months. Every new project brings new challenges and new learnings.
How about the architect that makes a project that looks beautiful and incredible and then, moves to do their next big thing. Three years down the line, people are struggling to put the project to work and those things don't work quite as nice as in their plans. But the architect is long gone. It's like the difference between making babies and raising children. Babies are cool and cute, but the real parenting begins after they switch from little blobs of cuteness into little devils that need to be tamed and turned into great adults that you would be proud of.
Lol we are not raising families, we are architecting though.
Case by case. Some job hoppers move before accomplishing anything. There is other talented/focused ppl that can adapt and deliver soon. Again, case by case. But for me I would not waste much of my time hiring somebody that I know will leave in less than 1 year
Citation required. It's definitely a yellow flag when we're considering a job-hopping candidate at Lyft. E.g. someone with several < 1.5 year positions in a row. A bunch of short tenures can point to someone who doesn't deliver much value at the companies they work with since it takes at least 3 months at a new company to get up to full speed. It can also point to interpersonal problems, or trouble being content with the responsibilities given.
I dont think it takes more then 6 months to deliver a product. I have seen products getting delivered in 1 month.
Depends what you call “product” , the size of it and the number of ppl you have.
It usually takes 1.5 years to really see if you are making positive/negative impact. If you leave before 1.5/2 years often it may look like your impact is not great and you keep escaping before anyone finds out. For instance you may not even establish 2 perf data points in that time period. You need at least two perf data points to establish a trend. Some places may not care but a lot of managers I know will definitely red flag multiple hops under two years.
Isn't this what an interview is for? You can tell if someone did good work during their short tenure or not.
Oh sweet summer child, interviews are NOT for that. All joking aside, at best interviews get a small view of you demonstrating technical skills and either telling honest/seemingly honest behavioral stories. Unless someone is really trained on how to drill into your stories they won't be able to detect BS.
Case in point are consultants aka contractors... Do a good job and grab the next big oppurtunity
I definitely have a bias against someone staying for 10+ years. But 2-8 years is normal, especially if you have kids and need job security.
The old days of being stigmatized for switching jobs too frequently are behind us. There’s even research to suggest that workers who stay at the same job for longer than two years end up being paid less, while workers who continue to seek new opportunities are quicker to learn, better at making first impressions, and more successful. Certainly they’re more adaptable, keeping their skills sharper and their strategizing more efficient.
Y r u replying first to ur own post, when u could have just included it in post??
The old days of being stigmatized for replying to your own post just to make it look like more people care about what you wrote are behind us. We can now write comments agreeing with ourselves, to make ourselves look smarter.