Sorry if I am not being clear. I am shocked and highly upset with the lies. I am of with being let go but honestly. So this came as a surprise. Manager was distant to begin with, really terrible. Put me in dev plan after 3 months. Started failing me on my dev plan on purpose. First would Say did great then on Fridays would tell me you didn’t do well. Same happened the week after. After that manager started being rude lately. Then got PIPed. I have 5 days to accept the offer or go through a 1 month dev plan. And if I fail I get 33% of amount. If I appeal and fail then I get 16% of the amount. I am willing to work but I don’t believe they want to keep me. So don’t want to further crush my confidence. I have 16 plus years work experience. I can easily get a new job in a few weeks. It’s just that I feel that this is unfair and really angry and upset with the lies. Want to spread the news that it’s one of the worst places to work in so if you get competing offers use AWS offer to negotiate but stay away. I have been given 5 days to accept compensation should I wait or leave immediately?
Visa or no visa?
Ofcourse on Visa. Who in their right mind would work in a slavery environment if they have GC or they are Citizens?
Are you a visa slave?
Leave, it sounds like you were hired to PIP
Is that really a thing?
What’s the benefit of this?
level?
You should consider escalating to HR - 4 months from hire to PIP is an insanely short timeframe, and IIRC is not enough time per general policy to establish PIP.
I've heard enough stories here to the point where 4 months seems fairly common at Amazon
Blind is often not reality. 4 months to PIP is highly unusual and something that would (should) raise internal red flags about the manager.
Classic amazon hire to fire. Just leave and please read reviews on blind before joining next company.
Sorry! But you’ll be fine. Just take the whole 5 days and chill.
Does google do pips?
Yes but they are extremely rare, i was reading threads in internal channel, most i saw were of non swe and those on pip were kinda like deserved it.
You’re shocked? People are constantly calling out Amazon for this shit.
They are shocked cuz they gave it a try and thought system is fair.
Let this be a wake up call to be all the people who want to join Amazon. Sorry for you, but this is clearly hire to fire quota. Just get the money and gtfo.
What’s a hire to fire quota?
If a manager doesn't want to fire the existing team members they'll hire new people just to fire.
You can challenge this pip, no one can pip you in 4 months.
Sorry to hear. Sounds like hire to fire. I would accept whatever payout and leave ASAP. They clearly don't intend to keep you.
What is the point of that? Isn't it a waste of time for everyone? Plus the reputation effects for the company are enormous.
Agree with a above, but I think the point is the % fired is an important metric (that I guess supersedes hire metrics), so the hire to have a person to fire for % fired metrics