Looking for the perfect PM role forever

In about 2 years I am targeting a company that I can stay at forever. Is there a company with all of these characteristics at once ? -Product led, where PMs are respected and are in charge of the direction -Great culture and WLB, where they ‘care’ (at least operationally) about people and their families personally. Only during business hours. -Exciting work, not looking to coast. I want to solve real problems and innovate constantly. -Good people, kind not cutthroat. -Has strong ethics Does this exist?

Crunchyroll bbpenguin Apr 26, 2022

Sorry for side-tracking your question, I didn’t know intuit was considered evil. Why is that?

Amazon TTYoY Apr 26, 2022

Yea, I’m also interested in knowing this

FoodChain ID epoa30 Apr 26, 2022

Generally they're the reason why the US tax system is stupidly complicated and makes you use tax filing software unlike any other 1st world country where the countries' equivalent to the IRS just sends a bill to the tax payer saying, "Hey we have you recording earning X amount please pay Y amount by this date. Thanks." Also they spend millions annually every year lobbying congress to make the tax code more annoying and difficult to navigate to sell their products.

Amazon TTYoY Apr 26, 2022

If your goal is to stay at a company for forever, you’re coasting. That said, Google fits a good chunk of your criteria but ain’t product led

Amazon TTYoY Apr 26, 2022

Also, what’s the obsession with being a lifer at a company? Tech industry moves fast - most companies that are awesome today may not be around in 10 years or would certainly be way past their days of glory.

Intuit GhJkL08 OP Apr 26, 2022

No, coasting is not doing anything significant or being ambitious. I want to be intrapraneurial and don’t want to have to go through the months long interview processes. I want to innovate and move up within a single company that I believe in

Google vegan. Apr 26, 2022

Sorry this unicorn doesn’t and couldn’t exist for someone’s lifetime. I’m sure you could find a team or org that this may stay true for a few years.

QOMPLX eHGz48 Apr 26, 2022

I’ve been a PM for a long time. You’ll probably find some of the items on your list but not all, so you’ll have to compromise.

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IndSuzuki Apr 26, 2022

Out of curiosity, is meta considered product led? I know Amazon is and Google is not. I think Meta is Eng led but not sure 🤔

Adobe CC1000 Apr 26, 2022

Adobe

Twitter lDJfldjalj Apr 26, 2022

I would have said Twitter a month ago

Intuit GhJkL08 OP Apr 26, 2022

Sorry for your loss :(

Intuit GhJkL08 OP Apr 26, 2022

Sorry for all of our loss

LinkedIn ninjas🥷🥷🥷 Apr 26, 2022

This is honestly LinkedIn. At least in many orgs.

Intuit GhJkL08 OP Apr 26, 2022

Is it meaningful work?

LinkedIn ninjas🥷🥷🥷 Apr 26, 2022

What does meaningful mean to you?

Marqeta NOTHXJF Apr 26, 2022

Marqeta isn't as flashy as the big names but definitely checks your boxes

Twilio 99problem Apr 27, 2022

Probably Adobe