Currently a HWE at a Google bet with 8 YOE in the bag area. Meta reached out, so I thoguht I’d check to see if Zukbuxz was actually a thing. I got an insulting low E5 offer also in the Bay Area. 200k salary 15% bonus 280k RSU (4 years) 300k TC I’m not even sure I want to try negotiating this, as it’s bottom of the barrel and flat/slight downgrade if I worked at Google. Plus I have tons of bet equity I would lose liquidity in if I left. I don’t understand how Meta feels this is a reasonable offer. Why would anyone leave a role they are established and comfortable in for a company with worse branding, WLB, and PIP culture for flat or a slight downgrade in comp. Current TC: 230k + Unknown due to low liquidity options #meta #hwe @meta
might be that you didnt interview too well, or they assumed you were or were getting laid off
I thoguht I did pretty well, and I had let them know I’m happy where I am. Only interviewing as they reached out and I’m interested in AR
Role, org?
Meta reality lab hardware working on AR. I don’t feel comfortable giving role as it’s a more rare one and can be used to identify me easily
is it not a raise from where you are? and 😂 at better branding. bets at google especially verily is shit and completely unstable compared to meta which already had deep layoffs i would say they valued you fairly especially in this environment. you arent a top performing industrial design engineer from apple
Try again. Verily doesn’t really do hardware, and my bet hasn’t done any layoffs. Are you also ignoring metas layoffs? If meta reaches out and wants someone to leave a place where they are happy at, for a place with worse wlb and pip culture they better give a big raise. Especially with metas recent stock volatility. Also Apple doesn’t have industrial design engineer. They are all basically artists. When I worked with them at Apple, they were as far from technical as someone could possibly be
doesnt matter, google has actively indicated it is looking for profit at the bets with layoffs across waymo and verily amongst others. unlike google, meta already did deep layoffs. bets != main google as you have to go through interviews to transfer. It is not the same nor should they be treated the same. Your equity options attest to this. meta has no need to offer top comp unless you have competing offers and are extremely talented in this economy. Not with so many laid off that are potentially better than you yet cheaper
my tc is 350 as i4
Yup which is why this is a terrible offer
yeah it is, also had a 60k signign bonus
Hi OP, this offer is an easy pass. While Meta SW salaries are significantly more than Google for the same level, the opposite is true for HW. A couple of years back, I had offers for E4 at Meta and L4 at Google and after 2 rounds of negotiation, Meta's offer was 15-20% less than that of Google, so I am not surprised at your offer.
Yea I ended up turning it down. A coworker transferred from a bet to Google hardware at L4 and she got 300k RSUs. 20k more than me as a E5 at Meta. This is just insulting
How do you not know your current TC?
I get options instead of rsu, and we have very few liquidity windows where we can’t cash out all of the options. So it’s hard to say what it actually is
Didn't know Google does options and not RSU.. Either way 300k in bay area is shit..