Lowballed by Amazon

Feb 16, 2019 58 Comments

Initial salary compensation discussion for a QAE 5 role was in the $160k (max base salary) range prior to my on-site interview. I completed three total rounds of interviews and Amazon’s first base salary offer was $105k with a $37k sign on bonus. I politely declined and indicated that it was well below the initial numbers and less than my current salary. Amazon responded with a $106k base salary and $47k sign on bonus. Again, I informed them that their total compensation was less than my salary and year end bonus. I know that I interviewed well and the feedback from the interview teams was positive. Amazon has stated that it’s their final offer. I’m ok walking away from the offer, but it seems to have been a mistake in initial numbers by the recruiter or they really are just trying to lowball me.

Has anyone had a similar experience with Amazon? I have 10+ years in quality control and an impressive track record. 🤷‍♂️

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  • Homeaway ppMg64
    Its a QAE role. That too L5. Unless something has changed drastically, I am unsure why I wold pay anyone 160K base for a mid level QAE role. If this was SDET, I could still see a 125-140K salary.

    No offense to OP, but I don’t think anyone is paying 160K base for QAE roles
    Feb 16, 2019 13
    • Amazon / Eng Yolo!
      Have you given them numbers at which you’d sign the offer?
      Feb 16, 2019
    • General Motors Auto_EE
      OP
      My response on Monday will include specific numbers.
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Amazon PooPooper
    So your first year tc is a little more than ~142k for L5 QAE? Honestly I think that sounds to be in the salary band for the position and level.
    Feb 16, 2019 10
    • Amazon / Eng Yolo!
      Amazon does not differentiate QAE for HW and SW. it’s just 1 job role for all be it Mobile, Web, Hardware or embedded devices. All said and done for your years of experience, you should get more. If in Seattle I think closer to 200k would be a great offer, that’s the number you should look for IMO. Good Luck!
      Feb 17, 2019
    • General Motors Auto_EE
      OP
      Thanks!
      Feb 17, 2019
  • Amazon / Eng n0v
    $160K base salary is very high and unusual for L5 QAE. Your expectations are out of whack.
    Feb 16, 2019 5
    • Amazon / Eng
      jinkching

      Amazon Eng

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      jinkchingmore
      Well, that's good to know. I moved from Detroit area (used to work at ford) to seattle and I wasn't paid anywhere close to that, in spite of being a software developer. Ford pay sucks, may be GM pays double the amount.. If I were you, I would buy a lake facing house north of Michigan and settle there with that money
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Amazon / Eng n0v
      TC at Amazon is base + RSU. In many cases RSUs can be larger than base salary. You should be able to get somewhere around $160K or higher TC
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Nintendo IBMB78
    On a different note, anyone have any idea on what will be Software QAE ii salary at Amazon Seattle currently ?
    Feb 16, 2019 3
    • Amazon / Eng
      jinkching

      Amazon Eng

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      jinkchingmore
      QAE pay band is the same regardless of S/W or H/W... its between 130 and 160k for L5
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Nintendo IBMB78
      Sorry op not trying to hijack your post
      Feb 16, 2019
  • General Motors Auto_EE
    OP
    A lump of $25$ of the signing bonus in my first check and then $22k spread out over the second year. 5% stock first year, 10% second year, and 20% bi-yearly after the second year. I was informed that stock pattern is the same throughout the company.
    Feb 16, 2019 5
    • Amazon gyMJ03
      Np, this can be confusing stuff. Congrats on the offer btw.
      Feb 16, 2019
    • General Motors Auto_EE
      OP
      You’re correct. I’d get the 5% at the end of year one.
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Microsoft n%2
    Just reject it.. not sure why they are offering this much less
    Feb 16, 2019 1
    • General Motors Auto_EE
      OP
      That’s my plan.
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Amazon tctasss
    160K is unrealistic. Who did you have that discussion with? You only mentioned base and sign on. Weren’t you offered any stocks?

    Reasonable TC would be 125-140 base, 25-35 sign on for first 2 years and around 80-100 stocks for 4 years. It all depends on your interview performance, certifications (BB, MBB etc) and possibly other candidates they might think would do this job with lower salary.
    Feb 16, 2019 5
    • Amazon tctasss
      The offer goes through hiring manager as well and if it was something she did stupid, I would expect HM to catch her mistake. Most probably that’s the best they can offer but it would not hurt to reach out to HM (LinkedIn or email if you have his business card) and have him clarify.
      Feb 16, 2019
    • General Motors Auto_EE
      OP
      I have the HM’s personal info. He told me to call him this weekend while he’s out of state on vacation with his family.
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Amazon / Eng jdbsbsh30
    Stock?
    Feb 16, 2019 2
    • General Motors Auto_EE
      OP
      Standard 5% stock option for the first year.
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Amazon / Eng jdbsbsh30
      5% of what? How many rsus were you offered?
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Facebook / QA WPBL01
    I was offered QAE 2 position at Bay area by amazon126 ring team
    165k base 52k sign on 35 units of stocks over 4 yrs

    Software QA
    Feb 16, 2019 1
    • Amazon / Eng Yolo!
      52 sign on for 2 years or per year for the 1st and 2nd? In Bay Area, it’s easy to get 160s base at L5, everyone gets it these days. It’s the RSU that’s DOPE, 35 is very less for 4 years.
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Amazon tctasss
    Location? Software or Hardware QAE?
    Feb 16, 2019 1
    • General Motors Auto_EE
      OP
      Seattle. Hardware QE with PrimeAir.
      Feb 16, 2019

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