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I have 16 YOE, been through 2 FinTech startups, negotiated some equity, contributed a lot to scaling those companies and had 2 successful exits. At startup #1 I was the CTO and lead developer, hired and ran a team of 10, and dealt with quite a bit on the business side. At startup #2 I was an early employee, became the Head of Engineering for about 5 years and was running a team of 60 by the time we were acquired. I stayed on with the new parent company (a no-name, but publicly traded US firm), where I've been running a large portion of their US R&D group remotely for the last 3 years (it's a set of globally distributed teams). My TC and opportunity for career growth seems to have plateaued, so it's time to move on (I was actually getting ready to leave in Feb 2020, but COVID hit and I decided to ride it out where I was because I knew the business would survive). TC: 160K CAD base, no stock, no bonus (no stock and no bonus is a policy across the company if you are below a "Director", which is likely why they brought me on as a "Senior Manager"). My current goal is to maximize TC, have a reasonable WLB, and ideally stay in Canada (but for the right opportunity and TC, my family is willing to relocate to the US). I'm guessing that an Engineering Manager role at a FAANG-like company is my best bet, but I have no idea what level I should be targeting. Full summary of experience for more context: 16 years in software, 11 years managing ICs, and 8 years managing managers. I currently have 8 direct reports, 60 indirect reports, and I'm responsible for the development and maintenance of 5 products. I regularly work with product management, the UI/UX group, external stakeholders, and other engineering leaders to coordinate the delivery of features that cross-cut products. My time is spent on high-level architecture, planning, roadmaps, technical due diligence of acquisitions, audits, development processes, tooling, cross-team communication, mentoring, coaching, and generally just clearing roadblocks and keeping my engineering teams out of meetings they don't need to be in. QUESTIONS 1) Given the scope of my experience, what level should I be targeting at each of the big companies and how do they value (or maybe discount) non-FAANG experience? 2) What are the things I should clearly call out in my resume to signal that I am qualified for that level? #facebook #apple #google #microsoft #netflix #amazon #stripe #twitter #slack #brex #chime #coinbase #square
This maps to L67 MSFT or L7 for G or FB, with 500k to 900k TC if you do well in the interview. This is US Weat Coast. For the interview it will need to be company-specific, but there are resources in the Internet and recruiters provide good information on request.
What would you request from the recruiters? Just curious
Similar startup experience to OP here. For positions at those levels, what should be the focus of your resume be to get someone to call you back? Is it about showing the scope of your current responsibilities or should it be focused on one area, like people management?
You will never make the $500-800k TC if you stay in Canada. If you want TC you need to move to Bay Area or Seattle
I've been so heads down working the last decade, I never took the time to figure out what I'm worth in the open market. I would be happy getting back to a TC of 320K CAD, but if everyone here is saying my experience could fetch over double that in the US, it would likely be worth relocating the family.
I wouldn’t be so sure on that anymore. Brex / Chime can pay up to 500k for staff devs here at Canada. If you’re on director level, it may even go higher. Brex also has ‘choose your split’, so you can decide on the allocation between cash and equity that works best for you. That being said though, the US bands are still higher, and taxes are lower. But not that drastically different anymore.
Matches to L7 at Google/FB.
You can easily get paid 800k to 1M if you have a similar scope in Netflix.
What title at Netflix has similar scope? Senior Engineering Manger? Director?
Most likely a director if you have 60 reports. Senior manager could manage at most a couple of other managers.
Go for director level positions and see if you get call backs.
Do you know if the recruiters keep a profile on you that shows all the positions you've ever applied for? I was just wondering if applying for jobs you're not qualified for reduces the chances of being looked at later when you start to target lower level positions?
Yes the companies keep records of previous contacts. no, no penalty for applying for a off-level job , with a few caveats. Don’t be wildly off - your experience maybe could match a director, certainly would at non FANG so no biggies. But also don’t be weird about it an keep applying to stuff once they engage with you and talk level.