Tech IndustryMar 15, 2023

Microsoft Or Walmart: And How To Reject Offer

Dear friends, I have stepped into a situation where I can’t make an immediate decision without help. Two offers: Microsoft, SDE 2, TC 190k, fully remote. Walmart, SDE 3, TC 125k, On-site Bentonville. Microsoft is still transferring my H1b in a “steady“ pace. Walmart has already transferred my H1b. Currently I am working in Goldman. Trade off: Walmart never lays off. I can survive recessions in Walmart; Microsoft looks better for a SDE resume, maybe it helps to get a job easier should any accident happens. Dilemma: Walmart has already filed and get approved of my H1b. They paid for filling. I feel guilty to reject and don’t know how to open my mouth if I don’t go there. Microsoft is my dream company because unlike most of you, I am not an experienced sde and I need growth and reputation. Goldman Sachs gives me a harbor: I survived a layoff and it seems I am safer now? TC: 125k YoE: 3.5 #tech

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Wish P++ Mar 15, 2023

add a poll?

Goldman Sachs sKYv20 OP Mar 15, 2023

Added thank you

Microsoft RSBM12 Mar 15, 2023

Join Microsoft, and pray for the best. Better brand value. Should be worth the risk

Goldman Sachs sKYv20 OP Mar 15, 2023

Thank you my friend

ExxonMobil snhdbe Mar 15, 2023

Better brand value will also help you land more interviews if anything bad happens. The TC difference will also make any potential lay offs less stressful. My vote is MS.

Microsoft daddysatya Mar 15, 2023

Not even a question significant TC difference. Please remove that never lay off thing from your mind. Can’t you realize companies act on their best interests seeing the current situation. You got the same risk anywhere in present condition. If Microsoft is offering you in this condition while layoffs are going on I guess the HR and team are aware of how important the role so they are offering you. So take Microsoft and work remote happily

Goldman Sachs sKYv20 OP Mar 15, 2023

That’s correct, I shouldn’t assume a company is permanently safe in this environment…

Meta 🛶 guy Mar 15, 2023

Moonlight all if remote, but considering you’re on visa, not a good advise.

Amazon al2012 Mar 15, 2023

Walmart is better you can boomerang MS when things are better

Microsoft jaWS38 Mar 15, 2023

What? Once OP lands Microsoft, next thing would be even better. Can’t say shit for Walmart

Google not_sundr Mar 15, 2023

Walmart does fire just dont get into news because they hire lots and lots of contractors. They let go lot of contractors recently. Also L3 pay is shit at walmart and very hard to get promotion due to politics. If you want to learn and grow, without a doubt join MS.

Walmart LqwI2010 Mar 16, 2023

L3/X3 at Walmart is a damn joke. Especially in tier 3 locations like Bentonville. Take the free processing from Walmart and go to Microsoft. The executives at Walmart are a bunch of clowns. They don't know what they are doing. They are professionals at pissing off everyone and maximizing their paychecks and stock grants.

Microsoft chatugpt Mar 15, 2023

What team in Microsoft?

Goldman Sachs sKYv20 OP Mar 15, 2023

A team of OneDrive. How do you think of it?

Microsoft chatugpt Mar 15, 2023

I think it's good. It is a money making machine for MS so layoff proof. I guess in this season whichever team is hiring is actually layoff proof and making good money.

Microsoft Kdwx82 Mar 15, 2023

My team has had headcount open up three times over the past year and every time an offer has been extended we’ve had to rescind it. I would tread very lightly with a Microsoft offer until it’s your start date.

Goldman Sachs sKYv20 OP Mar 15, 2023

That’s so scary to hear about… May I know what your team is, in any scope that you are Ok to reveal?

Microsoft jaWS38 Mar 15, 2023

Tell Microsoft and lawyers to hurry up. Tell them you have visa clock running out or some excuse.

Goldman Sachs sKYv20 OP Mar 15, 2023

Yeah, I wanted to let Fragomen hurry up, it seems they have their own pace and I am not sure whether they read my emails carefully…

Microsoft jaWS38 Mar 15, 2023

I just transferred my H1 in less than a month time using fragomen. I quit Microsoft few weeks ago. Total time (calendar days): 22-24 days.

Walmart hdhbdbc Mar 15, 2023

Ms for better work life balance and office culture. Walmart sucks

Microsoft chatugpt Mar 15, 2023

Work life balance. My 🦶.

Walmart hdhbdbc Mar 15, 2023

You will be happy if I tell you i work for 16 hours and on weekends and still get 3% raise with no refreshers