Microsoft to Facebook - Need Timeline Guidance

Finally it's time to say bye to MSFT. Recently got a verbal offer from Facebook (E4) with no numbers yet. I am expecting to sign the offer towards the end of April. My Annual Rewards/vesting will be in September worth $90k (RSUs at current price + target bonus). Need to be on payroll till 30th June for bonus and till 31st August for RSUs There are other posts on Blind suggesting Fb is flexible with joining dates. But I believe delay of 4-5 months would be an overkill. Please suggest if otherwise. PS. I have upcoming on-sites in next 2 weeks which can be leveraged for negotiations. Will add fb numbers as they arrive How to time the date of joining considering the following factors: 1. Facebook PSC (Half yearly review cycle) 2. Ramp up period at Facebook 3. Facebook stock vesting dates 4. Save the bonus (atleast) Role: SDE2 YOE: 2 at MSFT (+3 years in India) TC: 190K Visa: H1B Please share your thought process for selecting the option in the poll. #engineering #software #swe

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Amazon charlesw Apr 10, 2021

You miss another side of the picture: what does the pay in FB look like? Joining FB early can let you start FB pay early and you need to factor this in

Microsoft inithere OP Apr 10, 2021

Thanks for that insight. There is definitely a difference in base (20-25% delta) but here we are talking about a 4 month period. Stock vesting can be weighed in. Will edit.

Microsoft zzzzaa Apr 10, 2021

For those who are voting join FB at the earliest, how do you justify the loss of 90k worth RSUs in 4 months? Plus if OP is on H1B, the transfer will take some time as well meaning OP can't join before mid-end of May anyway. Then it's 90k RSUs additional by staying another 3 months

Microsoft _whoAmI_ Apr 10, 2021

If refresher are valued over 90k, you can justify it.

Microsoft missionsky Apr 10, 2021

This is the right advice. Unless FB grants you additional 100k stocks, I don’t think it worth losing 90k stocks just by staying 3 odd months at MS. Plus, you will get to enjoy your WLB for 3 more months.

Microsoft BosDK Apr 10, 2021

FB offer is valid for 1 year and your visa transfer process itself may take 1-2 months. Join after September.

Microsoft inithere OP Apr 10, 2021

Afaik visa transfer receipt can allow us start a new job. Am I missing something?

Microsoft BosDK Apr 10, 2021

Why you want to take that risk?

Microsoft moira_bebe Apr 10, 2021

FB gave me 4 options for start dates, within a 3 month span and I’m sure I could have pushed it further if I wanted. Discuss with your recruiter, let them know you’re excited about the FB role but are also a bit hesitant as you don’t want to miss out on your huge upcoming vest. They might give you a cash equivalent in your sign on or bake it into your offer

Microsoft inithere OP Apr 10, 2021

I am just concerned if it comes as a red flag for pushing too far out

Microsoft moira_bebe Apr 10, 2021

You need to tell them why you’re pushing it. It becomes a red flag if you’re being shady or withholding information

Microsoft inithere OP Apr 11, 2021

Anyone from Facebook who can shed some light on how different times of joining impact performance reviews?

Microsoft cafxafgd Apr 11, 2021

How do u have 90k stock vesting at l61? Crazy

Microsoft zzzzaa Apr 12, 2021

That’s with stock appreciation. OP joined 2 years back and probably got 150-170k stocks.

Microsoft cafxafgd Apr 12, 2021

Stocks vest quarterly, 90k quarterly is insane