My manager and skip are both Google vets of 10+ years. Both held 1:1’s as well as a team meetings today. These guys were downright shook. I’m not exaggerating when I say their body postures exuded anxiety, and one manager’s lip was quivering and voice shaking as it sounded like they were doing everything they could to fight back tears and not break down. Don’t get me wrong. My heart aches for all those laid off. But for first of all, these people who were laid off got seriously killer severances and will NOT be hurting in the market. Even the lowest performer will come out on top. Secondly, the way Googlers are acting is pathetic, especially management. Half have zero sympathy and are cracking jokes, the other half on a knife’s edge. I’ve been at tons of companies that went through layoffs or where departments were on the line, working with colleagues who you know aren’t exactly banking six figures, and yet composure was intact. It’s painfully obvious these Googlers have been sitting on thrones for far too long, thinking they were untouchable. Now that the axe has come down, middle level management doesn’t know how to respond. Managers I’ve seen act like stoic monks suddenly getting short of attitude or moping or their voice cracking. Time for these people to come back to reality. #tech #google #layoff
Sounds like a child. Lip quivering as a grown ass man? I remember my first job out of school, went to work met a bunch of people and 2 days later 90% of the people I met were gone. This was sept 2008. Lips quivering, Christ.
Wow you must be such a macho sigma alpha male! So cool that you never feel emotion 😎
very googly moogly
Sounds like you have some weak ass management over there.
Or empathetic.
openAI shook Google. Company like Google will take such steps nobody would have imagined .
I sadly don't think so
Funny you mention Google being a bank. They've have a treasury team and traders who try and optimise their cash pile / liquid assets for years.
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Based Amazon; can we see similar scenes for the L7 & L8s?
Same with Amazon, they should start with you.
there’s always next quarter, buckle up
My thing is this if you worked 10+ years in fang and don't have a few million saved you have been doing something wrong. One guy was shook with 16.5 years at Google and at least an L7 had to be making 750k plus. Why don't you have enough to retire at that point. I'm sorry I have been 1 year at FAANG after 20 years in the 🥜 gallery and give me 3-5 more and i am set and ride off into the sunset.
I agree with you but I understand how people get into this position. Lifestyle creep is a thing, especially for people who live in the Bay Area. You can eat a lot of 750k if you take multiple high-end holidays a year, have a mortgage of millions to service, kids in private school etc..
Being 10+ years in fang doesn't mean they were L7 the whole time. Just 5 years ago L5 was probably making 2/3 what an L5 makes today, even with the stock tanking. 10+ years ago an L5 barely cleared 250k. Of course, anyone who held their Google stock every year is doing great even if they were L4 the whole time. But many people have kids, help a parent, but a house, etc. And dip into RSUs to pay for it. In Bay area costs, I bet many Google L7 feel... comfortable... at best. Which is better than most people while you are employed.
Brevity is not your strong trait.
So this is what you took from the post. That it could have been shorter. I’m in awe of your brilliance.
Thanks, I gather you are sister shook.
You’ve got a good manager. But tbh, they seem to lack EQ. There’s ways to convey genuine feelings without strong reactions
Snap, please unpack this. Curious to learn more
Quite the opposite... Snap you might be the one w lower eq here
One cried. Another was ecstatic about RTO and good vibes (someone that never comes to the office) and now he's all surprised Pikachu.
Oh, be quiet. There have been layoffs at top tech companies in the past, so plenty of people have gotten to "experience what's normal elsewhere". You're just in your feelings. Instead of you to sympathize or empathize with those who have been laid off, you're being insensitive
No, the layoffs at big tech previously are mostly contained to killed projects and initiatives. Most tech workers have never experienced an unexpected layoff, esp due to company cost cutting. Tech workers have been privileged and if you don’t think so, go ask all the service workers in your local cafe how 2020 felt like, or people in the auto industry. “Normal people” is what gave us WARN Act.