People saying that American engineers are totally replaceable are wrong. Some of them are. Those are the ones with generic skill sets you can learn in a bootcamp or in school like front end, back end, full stack, C++, data science. I was just recently told privately by a VP at an Indian engineering services firm who I work with daily, that he can’t find people in India with infra or hardware skills, or architecture skills. Anyone from India can get certified on AWS, Azure. Anyone from India can learn terraform and Golang. But hardware and infra skills are not easy to learn on a bootcamp or in school. You need experience and a broad perspective. Electrical engineering background is more common there, or computer engineering.
I’ve worked with offshores engineers from witch, and the quality is appalling. I was literally shocked. We hired 5 of them last week and all of them combined weren’t able to substitute one US engineer.
That tends to happen when they are getting paid 1/10 of you
Offshoring also has to do with different companies. At my previous shit tier company, the whole idea was to bring up platforms in US and then transfer it to India because it costs less to develop Firmware feature there. But at Apple, I have been here for many years and never ever for once I have heard anything about “yeah let some offshore team do the feature development so let’s focus on how to hand it over to them”. So I think it depends on different companies too.
Sounds like a boot camp that teach architecture skill and hardware skill would be the money maker.
Architecture is a honed craft learned over years of experience, not something that can be learned out of a book for 20 weeks.
In my last company, we lost $5 mil due to a very stupid bug introduced by the offshore contractors. It costs more than all the potential savings going off shore combined
The same happened here several years ago. Multiple millions loss over-night caused by contractor. We got rid all of them the next year Lmao. But now we’re hiring them again … guess company never learns.
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What happens when most of your team is Indian?
Infra engineers are tough to find anywhere. I have hfts DMing me on LinkedIn weekly
What skills do you include as part of infra? Are you thinking cloud infra? E.g. terraform, kubernetes, aws, azure, golang, ansible? Or more like: storage, networking, hardware, solution architecture?
I'm very interested in these HFTs. How can I get them to contact me :(.