Talking about SWE. Per Blind Netflix review, many goes "no career growth", "earn money and go". I am currently SWE at Google, but I also feel there's no career growth. Any idea why Netflix has no career growth? Do you feel Google has it? L4 SWE, MTV, 6 yoe, 260k tc. I see myself a hard worker, got SEE. I don't really care wlb. Chasing money seems more fun to me. Google is slow, thinking about to move. #google #netflix
What’s your location? L4 SEE in the Bay Area should earn a bit more than 260K. Not sure if your TC was affected by 4-yr cliff. A promo should be able to fix this to some extent, but not much. If you are chasing money and willing to trade wlb for more TC, you’d better move. G is not the same G a few years ago. Nowadays G is generally paying 75% of the top tier TC, cuz it has the top-tier WLB.
L4 MTV. Sigh... G was always my dream job since I'm like 10. When I get here, they changed.
Once you start making more money and have less WLB, you’ll want to go back to WLB. People always want what they don’t have. Grass isn’t always greener lol
If your goal is L8 or higher, yes Netflix has a lower ceiling. Below that Netflix easily pays more.
Not even thought about L8 lol. Thanks
What’s your level? Did you get down leveled when joining google? Totally should consider moving
L4, MTV. Yes got down leveled
No wonder, hopefully changing employer can help making it up
Come to Netflix. You'll do well
I only refer people I've worked with
FB has best career growth
Just have to sell your soul and contribute to the death of democracy to get it
It's the politicians who destroy the democracy. LOL. Bring the god damn law that dictates what can be said or not on social media.
Short answer is at Netflix your job is not to attend meetings and influence others, instead you have to be hands on with all your work like every other IC. There’s no tech lead or architect role that guides multiple ICs or teams.
I don't quite agree on the influencing part and I think you need to do that all the time here. My experience is that you're given full responsibility for a project and if that involves working with other teams, cross functional partners, even your own team mates working on a diff project that your work might affect, you have discussions with them and have a chance to influence their decisions and design choices(or get influenced), work on getting on the same page to move things forward to get your project done. There might be projects with just implementation bits and small scope for which this doesn't apply but those have been about 10% of all things I've worked on. I agree that there is no one lead person making decisions and doing the influencing most times. Its usually everyone on the team doing it to some degree though.
What you said is true, same experience. I should rephrase it to “drive direction”.
Grass is always greener on the other side. Keep that in mind. If you currently yearn for money, come here. Few years in, you’ll want something else and you go to the company that provides that.
I switched from Google to Netflix, regretted really fast. I switched because I could not get L6 at Google and was promised engaging and stimulating projects. My manager wanted me to write test cases for other team code (they do not write the tests themselves). It was like L3 job.
Thanks for sharing... This is bad....
You should provide that feedback and lead by example. I told my teammates no PR should be accepted without unit tests and they've sticked to it pretty well.
Curious, why do you want career growth if pay can be increased while being at the same level on Netflix?
I'd like to say career growth has actually many perspective. Money is one. Mobility is one. Learning new things is one. For Netflix, looks like there's no job title change, so probably the mobility is somewhat a weakness. Your next job might not have big boost in tc. (But maybe it's not true? Next job will/should at least match current tc)
Most people will not find higher TC outside Netflix. Netflix takes top of market very serious
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In Netflix there are no levels for SWEs. Everyone is a senior SWE. So, you can't really prove that you have growth in terms of level in your resume. However probably you'll get to handle projects of bigger scope at Netflix over a period of time. The thing is, it could be hard to justify in your resume that you've grown, unless you have been rising in SWE level.
Good point. So the growth is about resume. Not really like learning new frameworks or techs.
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