https://www.federalregister.gov/public-inspection/2023-23381/modernizing-h-1b-requirements-providing-flexibility-in-the-f-1-program-and-program-improvements Still reading it. Looks like unique registration is included. More restrictive degree requirement for H-1B qualifications. Software developer job without degree or any engineering degree was called out and disqualified. Generic bachelor degrees or foreign equivalents are disqualified. Only U.S?? (Could be understanding it wrong) Positions must require specialized degrees. Overall there are so many changes, looks like it's getting much harder to get H-1B if passes. #workvisa #h1b
No using direct experience instead of degree? For example, 8 yrs exp in place of bachelor and 12 in place of masters? That would likely sell to many in the USA. But real experience in the listed area. Alas, the standards are taken advantage of by some firms ruining it for all and causing negative perception from USA.
This could impact citizens too as companies need to show hiring and recruiting practices “normally” require candidates to have those specialized degrees.
It only affects them if the firms are gaming the system. We know of several firms that do that (typically in IT “consulting”). Hopefully, any new regulation stops the gaming portion.
This is great. Hope it passes.
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Oh thanks for the reminder. Added a poll.
Selection will be beneficiary-centric and not employer centric. Gaming the odds with multiple employer registrations no longer will be possible. Beneficiaries are selected, not registered positions. And if a beneficiary has multiple registrations, they're only counted once. If someone with multiple entries is selected, they can choose which employer to go with
But multiple entries are not allowing under new rules, right?
This is gonna suck for ppl that can actually hold down a programming job but didn't want to get an actual CS degree outside the US bcuz the degree required too much high lvl math or ppl suck at taking exams but learn better by actually doing the work...so what happens to those ppl that actually end up gaining experience with a bachelor's and want to pursue a masters in CS within the US OR they successfully get an US employer sponsor to get them into the US for citizenship bcuz they're needed for a position...what happens then? Does the employer still issue this person an H1B or bypass the H1B to speed up giving the person a PR status?
Have you tried using ChatGPT to read the bill? It’s 2023 now
Just tried. "I'm sorry for any confusion, but I'm unable to access external sites..."
Just paste the text my friend, be smart
I hope they make it only US degree holders. That way the abuse would reduce significantly
It includes more than that. Read it.
Yeah the correct way to help the U.S. would be to exclude masters degree holders from Oxford and UBC from getting work visas to come to the U.S., genius.
My biggest concern is the lack of experience equivalent will hurt US citizens. I was at Microsoft before I had my degree, with the language as written I would have to be an exception. I know quite a few citizens without degrees but 10+ years experience. This could further isolate citizens from positions in companies that hire H1B and would disincentivize training workers in these specialized fields. I’d love to see a carve out that makes it so those on H1B have to meet the direct highly skilled position requirement, but candidates without a visa requirement could have experience and ability to train included instead. Still would be abusable, but would be closer to the actual goal of the H1B to only bring in skilled workers for areas that can’t be filled by workers already eligible to work here. I’m all for the registration system changes that prevent companies from submitting candidates multiple times, if we’re going to use a lottery system for any amount of visas, it shouldn’t be pay to play.
I’m not sure I understand here. Companies are free to hire LPR/USC/EAD without degrees as they do already. There’s a push to eliminate the paper ceiling in the USA anyway. I also started working before I got my degree.
Citizens are ALWAYS preferred over H1Bs.
This looks like a huuuge change. 🤧
Looks like no more SWE role H1b approvals for Non Computer Science degree holders: "Similarly, a petition with a requirement of any engineering degree in any field of engineering for a position of software developer would generally not satisfy the statutory requirement, as it is unlikely the petitioner could establish how the fields of study within any engineering degree provide a body of highly specialized knowledge directly relating to the duties and responsibilities of the software developer position"
Yep.. also think about other non tech/engineering legal workers who are not "specialized" enough for these qualifications. Like business, marketing etc generic roles are never gonna get H-1B anymore. U.S effectively shut the door for the average legal worker.
Question - do Computer Engineering degree holders qualify for SWE roles? I've heard Computer Science Degree holders often face a tough time getting the TN visa for Software Engineering roles. It was easier for Computer Engineering degree holders to get the visa. Next what, they would restrict someone who studies CS from working in DS or AI roles? Lol. This is absurd and impractical. There are so many many specialized paths for each degree holder within the same field. Computer Engineering, Computer Science, Robotics Degree, AI degree. Everyone is specialized enough to do all Software engineering jobs (absolutely silly) This makes no sense. Ofcourse if a mechanical engineer, or a civil engineer tries to get into SWE, that's understandable. But that's already heavily pushed back. They are digging their own grave here. US - the land of absurd laws and restrictions
Is it happening or not, or just going to die it’s natural death
This is on track to happen as it is following the rule making process. This is different from a bill that needs congressional approval without which it slowly dies. This will not require any voting by congress, it is to be implemented at the discretion of Biden administration. To implement this, they just need to publish it, allow comments from public, review the comments and incorporate feedback if they want and finalize the rule. This is the same process that Obama administration used to increase the 10 day grace period to 60 days and to implement h4 ead. https://www.federalregister.gov/uploads/2011/01/the_rulemaking_process.pdf
TLDR?
Added some into the post