Not a liberal anymore
I always considered myself liberal/democrat. There was even a time when I donated to Bernie Sanders's campaign. But I'm currently experiencing a shift in my political view. Working at Uber really opened my eyes to the sad reality of things. A few days ago a Dutch court ruled that Uber drivers should be employees. For those of you who don't know, a lot of unions worldwide are pushing Uber to employ their drivers instead of hiring them as independent contractors. Obviously, Uber doesn't want that. Interestingly a vast majority of the drivers (over 75%) don't want that either. They usually prefer flexible hours or working on the side of their main job. Also, many riders don't want that either because they have to pay the premium for their rides. So, you may ask why the unions and the governments are pushing on this? The answer really exposes the true nature of them. The unions that win against Uber will get to expand their footprint and they will get to push the costly memberships to the drivers. That would be an incredible increase in revenue for them. The governments are also desperate to convert the gig workers to full-time for that delicious tax money they get from both sides. So, the sad reality of things is that no one really cares about the drivers here. Some people may watch the news, and they might stand on the union's side just because it might "sound" right. And I don't blame them, I would have thought the same if I didn't know the details. That's why I'm saying working at Uber opened my eyes a little bit. Things are not as simple as they seem. I'm not a republican but I can't say I am a liberal anymore. Not just because of what I mentioned here but stories like this were the beginning of a shift in my political view. I always thought people who vote for republications are stupid and selfish, and now, I can definitely admit that I was incredibly naive for thinking like that. Not sure if I'd vote for republicans from now on but I'll try to stay objective and respects others' opinions more. #uber
I don’t agree with many liberal ideologies. For example, I think most unions are bad and kind of corrupt, I don’t agree with defunding the police, I don’t like taxes, affirmative action, and we can do better with illegal immigration policy. However I also think women should be able to get abortions, we should be stricter with gun control, and that climate change is a real problem. I also agree that pushing drivers to be employees is a dumb move- most drivers don’t want to have shift managers and prefer the flexibility of being an independent contractor. It’s only a small vocal minority who agrees with ALL liberal or conservative policies. I think I still lean left for the most part, but I think it’s only the crazies like AOC who buy into all of it. Not many things are completely black and white.
I couldn't agree more
"most unions are bad and kind of corrupt" is silly. Unions are made up of members, all of whom are workers. If your union is corrupt or whatever, it's because the ppl you work with are crap and don't want to organize to take power in a democratically elected leadership. The union is YOU.
A reminder that actual liberals agree with you here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism It’s really not liberal / conservative, it’s the left/progressives/some-Marxists vs. moderate liberals (overseeing the bulk of humanities boons since enlightenment) and the conservative/right/some fascists/some religious extremists. This is how the entire globe operates and because of the US’s pre-modern political system the left / liberal struggle collapses into the inside of the Democratic Party because of the 2-party system. Atleast until the Republican Party doesn’t have an entirely batshit cult of personality delusion because that’s their best option when pandering to the uneducated and religious extreme. Think WW2: UK/US against Germans and Soviets. Guess who is who
> a vast majority of the drivers (over 75%) Is that the number Uber have been promoting? I thought we busted that myth already
Surveys (sponsored by Uber?) claim majority prefer ic status. Do you know of any other surveys with different results?
If in doubt, I recommend you asking your Uber drivers yourself which is what I did. Also, prop 22 in California won with 58% of votes so we know they are at least 58%. The remaining 42% includes a lot of non-drivers who were misled by the Unions and the Government, so hard to say. We don't have such ballot measures in UK or Netherlands which reminds me again why US is a great country! And I'm not American https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_22,_App-Based_Drivers_as_Contractors_and_Labor_Policies_Initiative_(2020)
You can be a Democrat and be for allowing Uber drivers to be independent contractors. I know lots of Democrats that voted to allow Uber drivers to be independent contractors.
Not a liberal anymore my ass. F off, troll. Update your script. https://reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/_/h21ph7s/?context=1
Seriously, do these people actually think these tactics work? Or are they projecting their own mental capabilities onto the general population? I would have thought that the sheer stupidity of Dave Rubin would have killed this tactic, but apparently not.
Thanks for telling us.
Uber should employ drivers tho. Flexible hours isn't a counter to that, part time employment isn't a new concept. Uber is trying to pretend it's not a taxi company, but really it's a taxi company.
Should Amazon consider all 3rd party sellers to be employees?
No, not third party sellers, but when you look at that flex delivery driver system it's bullshit they aren't employees. What Uber is doing would be like Amazon claiming all the warehouse workers are third party businesses that are paid per item picked, packed, stowed or shipped.
welcome to real world and beginning of realization that there is no democracy. once in power, everyone mostly cares about his/her pocket only.
Uber sided with the left to spew racism. The left backstabbed Uber. Serves them right! During the pandemic they doubled down on racial discrimination by waiting delivery free only for blacks owned businesses, as though other businesses weren’t hurt. What a slap in MLK’s face for dreaming of a colorblind country. And for all that talk on inclusion and diversity, the silhouette for driver is female, not a gender neutral one, although most drivers are male. Uber sided with the left to spew racism. The left sided with unions and backstabbed Uber. 😂
Uber sides with "some" liberal ideas because there is so much attack from the left and not much support from the right. Why should Uber fight back alone? If you don't like these ideas stay vocal and support businesses when there is an unjust attack from the left. You can't stay on the sideline and just blame Uber, it's just a business trying to stay alive.
Any business that supports the left will be backstabbed sooner or later. Look at Twitter and Facebook — they engaged in aggressive policing of pro right hate speech (some experiments verify this). In the end they got the short end of the stock from both — right wants to regulate them for censorship and left wants to break them and tax them more.