Blind fam, first & foremost thanks for all the learnings & motivation through countless discussions. You guys & girls are awesome 🙌🏼 Need your tips deciding among following offers. Please take the poll & add a comment? 🙏 ▪️Facebook E5: 390 ▪️Airbnb L5: FB + 20 ▪️Dropbox IC4: FB + 35 Role: Senior SWE Status: Actively negotiating each. Location: Seattle Math for TC: Base + RSU/4 + Sign-on/4 + Cash bonus for meeting expectations, not counting refresh Google process is at HC. Waiting on outcome of Pinterest & Apple onsites. (approximated, hiding breakdown for anon, feel free to DM) Pros: Facebook: Better for resume (Amazon's brand has been great anyways). Bootcamp process (not sure how useful virtual one would be) Airbnb: Risk to reward ratio is great. Liked the HM & mission of team. Dropbox: Only company which didn't lowball in the beginning. Respect that. IC4 is between E5 & E6! Cons: Facebook: WLB likely to be shit. Initial offer was so lowball, it was downright disrespectful. PIP culture. Airbnb: Given recent layoffs, my green card transfer may be in danger. RSU unit math expected to happen at joining (they might IPO by then?) Dropbox: Stock hasn't done well. Will miss out on gains in "granted" RSU.
What's the max FB E5 offer have you seen post-Covid?
200 700 100
205 700 100
Do your numbers include bonus?
Yes, cash bonus for meeting expectations
Lol. What makes you think you can easily get MA rating for e5?
Dropbox refreshes are nice btw. If you got good rating you can get 50% initial grant. Your TC is within IC4 band (I’m IC4 as well). Downside for FB & DBX is promo to staff is impossible. For DBX L4 you should have got Airbnb Staff
Makes sense, I am planning on transitioning to EM at some point.
FB is likely going to match/beat Dropbox. How equity can go beyond 675?
Yoe?
Range: 6-8
Whats the base, bonus, equity from.airbnb?
Please DM me, happy to share the breakdown
OP, are these offers for generic swe role or some specialist role ?
Generic SWE
Dropbox. It has most of the upside of the others, none of the down sides. It’s a good tech brand. And they didn’t play games, they saw your value from jump. COVID-19 is not going away, so travel will be limited. People are tiring on Facebook. None of that matters to Dropbox.
How is WLB there? Do you work there btw?
Its relaxed...for better and for worse. Btw...fb pip culture? Hardly that... especially compared to amazon.
Can you share about interview prep nd timeline? How did you manage to get these many offers at the same time? :) Also, congratulations!
Thanks yrot! I'm planning on writing a thorough post on it. Prep - on & off for 2 years (fear of rejection much?) Aligning offers - snowball effect
Is this post out? Please post if not done already :)
I would pick Google L5 over all these offers if you get it. Safer for you since you are on a visa. Also Google L5 >>>> FB E5 these days as it’s harder to get and also FB E5 level is easily given compared to Google L5. Airbnb has a huge upside if you get the stocks at 18B valuation but if you miss that then it’s not a great option given that there is a huge risk of one more round of layoffs as COVID 19 is here to stay for more than 1 full year easily. All the best.
Thanks uuuujj@! Finally some thoughtful comment 😊 Google is just painfully slow, so let's see. Can't wait to be lowballed by them 😂
Fb E5 is new E4. They are giving it to 5 YOE.
Depends on share price used to calculate Airbnb offer. If it's based on $18 billion valuation, Airbnb's offer would be medium risk, very high reward.
Calculation will happen at the time of joining. Joining date is guided by my H1B transfer. If they IPO before that, upside will be reduced.
Be aware of the ongoing h1b regulation change though, you might want to pick a higher base lower stock offer if there is one