Tier has been decided on basis of outside perception of a software engineer at a company plus hiring bar Tier 0: Renaissance Technologies, HRT, Discord, Jane Street Tier 1: Databricks, Google, Netflix, Airbnb, Tesla Autopilot, NVIDIA AI/ML, Stripe, Plaid, Nvidia Tier 2: Tiktok, Meta, Roblox, Pinterest, Apple, Uber, ByteDance, Snowflake, LinkedIn, Square, Scale AI, Brex, Airtable, Adobe Sensei Tier 3: Instacart, Dropbox, Robinhood, Datadog, Lyft, Twitter, Asana, Figma, Confluent, Snap, Coinbase, Atlassian, Doordash, Palantir Tier 4: Salesforce, Adobe, VRBO, Microsoft, Zoox, Affirm, Splunk, Twilio, Spotify, Palo Alto Networks, Bloomberg, Amazon Tier 5: Oracle, Tesla, VMWare, Shopify, Intuit, Expedia, Paypal, Disney, eBay, Autodesk Tier 6: Cisco, Intel, IBM, Capital One Tier Unknown: Cloud Kitchens #tier #engineering #software #swe #Google #meta #nvidia #tesla #snap #databricks #tierlist Open to criticism and changes. engineer movement across companies is accounted. tc: 360K after stock drop yoe: 5.5 https://www.teamblind.com/post/Established-Tech-Company-Landscape-Comp-Groupings-DNFnXCFz is also a good rankings post original post idea was from snap
Where is Expedia?
Expedia is a tough one, vrbo seems to be tier 4, rest tier 5
Make it tier 4 😎 I’m in Vrbo
TGS tier 0. Also, how is Apple not on here?
Wtf is renaissance technologies
Haha okay
Amazon>Microsoft sure. 😂😂
Microsoft is a joke lol for both technical excellence and pay. Confirmed with multiple people who have/had worked there. Got offers (I live in chicago) from google and Amazon - Amazon at 325k google at 300ish and Microsoft offered 205 and said it was “top of the band they could offer”. I know people who almost tripled compensation going from Microsoft to Amazon on my team.
We pay for 1 make them work for 1 Amazon pays for 1.5 make them work for 20.
I have seen literally all of amazon folks joining to Microsoft for less pay either due to insane WLB, poor culture and no promo path. Promotions at Microsoft are not very difficult. You will be promoted easily not that much at amazon.
No doubt, an L3 working on a UI library team made this list
how about you give suggestions? for the record, I am neither.
1) Why include only two quant firms on this list? There are plenty of others that match if not absolutely destroy your tier 1s/tier 2s in hiring bar + comp. IMC, Optiver, Jump, Two Sigma, Jane Street, Citadel Securities, Old Mission Capital, etc. You even included one of the smallest firms (Rentec), so why not also include Radix with the highest profit/engineer on the planet. 2)Databricks has an overpriced valuation last-updated at the peak of the tech bubble with a shitty updated RSU policy. Also shitty WLB. Less engineering talent is interested now a days 3) Brex, ScaleAI, scammy late-stage pre-ipo companies with stingy RSUs. Airtable’s RSU upside and hiring bar is way higher. 4) Lyft, Doordash, Uber, (maybe) Airbnb are all dying. Public bleeding money badly with no real path to growth 5) Amazon is literally a hire-to-fire company with the worst profit/engineer ratio out of all the FAANGs. Their new grads are literally given offers based on two online open-book coding assessments ALONE. It shouldn’t be higher than any of the tier 4s on this list 6) Twitter, Square, Atlassian, just ultra-high WLB companies that pay decently. edit you moved Doordash and Amazon
Tier 0: TGS, Rentec, Radix Tier 1: JS, HRT Tier 💩: everything else
Lmao Radix is solid but not that high up. Citadel’s GQS alone might have more PnL than all of Radix.
CTC copium
If you Google cloud kitchen, a number of new stories about workplace harassment comes up. Maybe reconsider?
done.
Cloud Kitchens is 💩