Outsourced recruiters
I am frequently approached by email by outsourced recruiters wanting to talk about some vague, yet infinitely exciting, position. “Do you have a few minutes?” I’m tired of scheduling a block of time only to determine I have no interest, not the right experience, etc. they will disclose the position details on the phone but never in their outreach. Why? It seems so inefficient. I’m thinking of replying asking for more info before talking. Recruiters just end up ghosting the majority of time — even when there is a good match and an initial phone screen. Thoughts? By the way, I’m not a programmer in tech. I work in biopharma
I only respond to 1st party recruiters. I tell the others no or I just outright ghost them.
Because, they aren’t outsourced recruiters. Outsourced recruiters will name the company and role. They can prove they contacted you first, even if you apply directly (assuming your application doesn’t go to them anyway). These are headhunters trying to fill their top of funnel. They spam thousands, to get one to take the bait on some vague promise. They then bait and switch with some shit role. Their process isn’t optimized to find you a job, it is optimized to get them a commission. Any commission, and it only takes one or two a month to sustain them. Their model works, because people engage with them. It is no different on the hiring manager side. These asshats are always reaching out with some great candidate that never materializes. Top companies and candidates simply don’t work with independent bottom feeder recruiters.
Outsourced recruiters, or so called recruiting agencies, to my experience don't seem to understand what they job means and just send out random emails and see what sticks with the company that hired them - to these recruiting agencies it's just a number's game. Thus they ghost like crazy and are in most cases (I met 2 relatively professional recruiters out of the 15 years I worked) very unprofessional. I just apply direct, and I don't notice a big difference in my hiring prospects.
That's why they don't tell you in the initial contact. If you apply yourself, they don't get paid.
Good point. One could just reply directly. But, as I mentioned, they often disclose early on. Maybe by then one feels a little loyal or thinks it couldn’t hurt to have this person present me.