This is in response to this post that is going around Check out this post! "What’s Meta’s pip %? (Tech Industry)" https://www.teamblind.com/us/s/Tz2XgUd1 Two back to back MM at Meta doesn’t mean PIP. I know that’s a usual understanding. But here’s the details. One of my friend, actual he became more a friend like post leaving Meta than when he was there. An Indian dude, and pretty sure quite a few folks at Meta knew him back then. He was known and mostly hated by Meta folks for his rants on Investing , Tesla etc in internal forums. He had two back to back MM. Yet he was never put on PIP. Why? Because his leadership org never gave him MM because of his work issues. He apparently was very much known in his team as one of the best ML person. They would give him MM because of his “People axis”. He was very vocal on most things even to tne extent of commenting to Sheryl Sandberg on Jan 6th incident. The dude, honestly never said any wrong thing. We were all there. He just would say things which were unpopular in society but true. Meta being a liberal org and most ppl being liberal woke, can’t tolerate him saying reality about Topics like Climate Crisis , etc. So even though he was doing great work, his leadership org will fuck him every time on People Axis. He could have easily got GE in first 6 month itself. They screwed him by giving MM on People. But never still PIP’ed him for two back to back MM
So he consistently ignored an axis and got MM. Sounds about right, not a snipe by people. Pip is more context relevant. Out of 100s of meta engineers I’ve worked with, MM was represented at the correct %, but I’ve honestly not known a single person to be placed on an official PIP.
Are the axis shared publicly to all employees?
Yes it’s super transparent, both the axes, as well as the explicit technical and behavioral expectations at each level. Some things have shifted this year, but for quite a while it’s been (1) project impact, (2) engineering excellence, (3) people, (4) direction. And project impact counts the most, but if you completely ignore an axis, you’ve not met 1 or more expectations, and that’s pretty much auto MM regardless of your impact. Conversely, as long as you meet baseline expectations, high impact can then pull you up more than the others.
He would have ended up suing like the ones from Google couple years ago, who were let go for similar voicing. That’s why they didn’t PiP him but indirectly ensured he isn’t progressing to next level. Welcome to snarky management!
No. That was not the case. He was always given MM because he wasn’t the usual types as most at Meta were. He would speak his mind - never being rude to anyone but will speak on popular topics. Was removed by folks in investing group at Meta because he literally would start posting there anti ARKk and Tesla. Both were the rage back then in 2021 so ppl didn’t like it.
Yeah so management noticed this and did bare minimal to invest in his career. Dude realized this and left.
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