PSA: Biden is Unelectable
He has no platform to offer a positive agenda... no “hope and change”... just nostalgia for 08-16. He has racist and sexist baggage, years of conservative votes... and proudly claims the credit for policies most Americans dissaprove of now: mass incarceration, the Patriot Act, the Iraq war. He has never won a state in (i think) 3 Presidential runs until SC last weekend. In this eclection he has not won a single DNC debate... yet he is supposed to go against Trump? He is an establisment candidate and Trump has shown great skill in thrashing establishment candidates. He might win against a tradfitional candidate, but not Trump. I think in the current political climate only counter-populism could pose a real chalkenge to Trump’s faux-populism. But IMO the DNC is more scared of Sanders than of a second Trump administration because a Sanders candidacy might drive some Wall Street money away from the DNC.
Sanders is also unelectable...so it looks like 4 more years of trump.
Honestly Sanders would be way more damaging to the country than anyone on the ticket in either party
Sure buddy.
I’m a trump supporter and it’s so difficult being one in tech, to see all the nonsense the media throws at trump and to turn the news on and see the same thing being said about Bernie it’s just ironic. Though I disagree with Bernie communist positions as my parents left a communist country to come to America and be subjected to racism, had we stayed in our own country we’d be chilling. Communism made my parents leave. Id still defend Bernie, because it sucked when all this was being said about trump and the media so dishonest..
Biden and sanders are like google and fb. One is chill and lowballs the other is intense but chance of higher rewards. Most people would choose google over fb though
That's not really a good comparison - one represents the moderate establishment, while the other represents a radical type of reform. So it's more like Microsoft vs. Netflix.
No, Biden will lose because he his a worse candidate than Clinton, is terrible in debates, and has no positive platform for regular Americans. Most Sanders voters will have no other option and will vote for him because Trump. But they won’t be excited and won’t go door knocking etc and so this may depress the vote. (But anything is possible... world/national events might cause Trump to self-destruct) But I hope after Nov, that 1/3 of the party voters who want a new direction leave the party and we establish a labor or populist party to oppose corporate Democrats and Republicans.
@Credit Karma. You’re making the assumption that most Bernie supporters hate Trump and so will vote for Bernie. That’s mostly true in CA due to TDS but in other states the Bernie supporters are more fed-up with the establishment and so are likely to write someone in, or cross over to Trump, then vote for Biden.
In all seriousness, Bernie supporters will never vote for trump and Biden supporters will never vote for trump. What actually matters is 1) who moderate republicans will vote for (biden) 2) how many Democrats will vote (honestly not sure if this would change due to the amount of trump hate)
You sure Bernie supporters won’t vote for trump? I mean they already got him elected once.
Moderate Republicans went for Trump in 2016... what makes you think the same losing strategy will win now that Trump has been in office and has been normalized? I won’t vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Biden either... and certainly wouldn’t volunteer or encourage anyone else to vote for him. The DNC keeps losing to Trump because they refuse to mobilize on a popular basis - because they are scared of their own voters.
I agree with you op. Every time we get to hear that if Bernie gets nominated moderates won’t vote and Trump would win. How about they stop spreading the negativity and let people decide. It’s not that Hillary or Biden would defeat Trump, but still the same thing every time.
I believe Democrats are not even as loyal as Republicans. Republicans don’t care what media, other people, or common sense tell them. They just follow Trump, which makes it really hard to defeat him. Bernie should have his own Fox news.
I mean we just got proof that most democrats prefer a moderate than a far leftist. Bernie lost fait and square, got fewer votes, but I guess people gonna argue he got cheated somehow.
Sorry, but Op is a Bernie Bro who’s now resorting to false propaganda because the people have voted and the extremist socialist has lost ground. You say he has racist baggage then why did he win SC? Why did he win majority of the African American vote? The Bernie campaign was touting his strong recognition in the Latino community that would lead to a victory in TX, however that did not happen, Biden actually got more votes. The people have spoken and this is the verdict, accept it or start your independent run and do whatever you want. Raging against the “establishment” and asking for a revolution are exactly the reasons why Bernie lost, people don’t want another crazy person like the one we have in the WH. Bros need to fall in line and decide what’s more important, defeating Trump or protesting against the establishment, the same establishment mind you who let someone who’s not even a registered Democrat to run as a candidate for president for their party. This time if Trump wins, it’s entirely YOUR FAULT, so stop whining and vote Biden.
Here’s a preview of “electability” in action at a debate: Biden: we have to unite the country we can’t have Trump’s divisive and bigoted baloney! Trump: oh poor sleepy-Joe forgot that he championed the crime bill that put more black People in prison that ever in US history. So many peoples lives ruined. Sad. Very Sad. I pardoned a black guy and black unemployment is the lowest ever in the history of the world [stupid grin]. Biden: But Trump called African countries shitholes Trump: Not true. Oh so not true. Why don’t we talk about how good ol Joe here opposed bussing to give poor black kids the advantages of wealth suburban schools. Very shameful. Biden: Well back at that time... Trump: And let’s not forget that Biden said that “poor kids are just as bright as white kids”. Biden: now that was a flub an honest slip... Trump: and wasn’t it Joe here who thought it was so remarkable that Obama was well spoken and clean? [Mussolini pose] Audience: 4 more years! lock him up. Lock him up!
Maybe you should debate Trump coz you know what he’s gonna say already 😅 In all seriousness though the debate doesn’t matter as much, what matters is the ground game (I think you or someone on the Bernie camp mentioned it) where you knock on doors talk to people, do rallies, run ads on all media channels and energize democrats, independents and republicans who don’t like Trump. With Bloomberg’s cash and analytics team, Bernie’s support and a united front that can be achieved and Trump can be defeated. P.S - I enjoyed reading that debate simulation, nicely done 👏
The same guy who has been posting tirelessly pro Bernie propaganda is now just dissing the main candidate of his own party... If this is the unity we're going to get from democrats then might as well hand over the presidency to Trump yourself. Bernie is done because: a) His positions were too extreme and most people just want moderate policies b) He should never have run as a democrat but instead founded his own label and run as that, instead of trying to criticize the very establishment under which he's running c) His early lead was misleading because the moderate vote was split between 5 candidates, while socialist vote only 2 (and more probably 1.5) Bernie would never have won against Trump, and now he's done - good riddance. You can try to accept it and move on, or keep arguing how "unfair" this is or how he was "cheated" if that makes you feel better - all the same.
I’m not a Democrat. Sanders is the first I’ve voted for - in part because he not only challenges the RNC establishment but also the DNC one. Sanders is popular and the 2nd choice of Biden voters. He is unpopular among the media and political establishment. I think what happened is that the DNC and media were successful in making a case about “electability” and out-organizing Sanders. Electability is a legitimate rationale for voters in the primary and they were swayed. However I do not believe the media story is actually the case. Polls show both Sanders or Biden winning. However, I do not think that Biden can pull Obama like numbers (more in the Clinton range) and would be a complete disaster in debates with Trump.
Got any source to back your claim that he is the 2nd choice of Biden voters? Or are you going to make another broad claim not backed by any fact? I'm probably going to vote Biden, yet Bernie is at the rock bottom of my list, even after Trump. And I know many democrats personally who feel the same.
This might be right. Too bad nobody voted for Warren, the candidate who actually has a clear platform and policy solutions, and who could wipe up the floor with Trump. 🤷♀️
Yeah.. the WRONG policy solutions
Such as your brokerage getting hit with a 34% annual income tax