Pay cut to join Google?

Oct 28, 2018 61 Comments

Currently at AMZN. Have an offer from GOOG. Base pay is -5% and total compensation is -7%.

AMZN TC is ~250k (base 158k)
GOOG TC would be ~235k (base 150k)

GOOG offer is lateral move. 10 YOE.

Role is a product manager, not an engineering role.

I have 50+ shares of AMZN vesting in Jan 2019 (calculated into my 2019 total compensation number) . GOOG will not let my start date be in 2019.

Boss says a promotion is coming in the next round, but no promises.

Should I stick it out at AMZN or take the GOOG offer?

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  • Microsoft / Eng ek saaya👤
    If you got offer from Google this time, you should be able to get it next time as well. Get some competing offer or try again next year after studying more.
    Oct 28, 2018 6
    • Microsoft DOyu71
      If what you are saying is that overall you are more likely to have a harder interview at google, I'm not sure how you'd measure this. That has been your experience but I know several people including myself who have had a different experience. Yours may be more typical or it may not, I dont know, and probably you dont either.

      As for one interviewer runing your day I used to work with a guy at ms that never passed anyone, ever. He had these ridiculous, esoteric questions that had to do with mathematical proofs (dont remember exactly what they were). He had a bunch of them. He was on about 20 loops for our team until HMs finally started leaving him off. He later was vp for a different group, and probably screwed all kinds of people there too. The point being you'll find tough interviewers at ms too.
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Facebook alt_qq
      Interesting. What I've seen on blind seems to align with my experience with Google interviews (harder to get an offer than FAAM) but I acknowledge I don't have complete information.
      Oct 29, 2018
  • Google WatsGoinOn
    Start in 2019 and negotiate for a higher pay. Google recruiter is bullshitting you when he is saying that offer cannot be higher or the start date can’t be delayed.
    Oct 28, 2018 5
    • Bosch OpxD24
      Interesting. I have an interview coming up for a specific role. Hey contacted me. I mentioned they had another role that was more suited to my experience. But that role was with another recruiter. Anyway. I mean that incentivizes the recruiter to hire me but it it’s ultimately the choice of the hiring committee so I guess I shouldn’t really read much into the quota and how that affects my chances. Thanks.
      Oct 28, 2018
    • Google Dssv11
      Beware that if you start in 2019 you are automatically ineligible for an equity refresh until YE 2020. New policy, make sure your starting equity makes up for that fact. Don't get scroogled.
      Oct 29, 2018
  • Amazon austria
    OP
    Should also note that GOOG would be 10 minute commute. AMZN office is 45-60 minutes.

    Have been at AMZN for almost two years
    Oct 28, 2018 2
    • Facebook alt_qq
      Shorter commute, better WLB, better for resume

      Worth it IMO
      Oct 28, 2018
    • WLB not always better at Google you should see the search devs checking in cls at 1 am all year long.
      Oct 29, 2018
  • Macy's / Ops
    MollyMcB

    Macy's Ops

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    Amazon, TJX
    MollyMcBmore
    Amazon usually does not rehire if you leave as an L5 or above. You have stock vesting in 60 or so days. I would wait it out.
    Oct 28, 2018 3
    • Amazon mxKendncnd
      What? Yes they do
      Oct 28, 2018
    • Twitch
      jq52

      Twitch

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      Amazon
      jq52more
      What? Of course amazon does. I have rehired high level people returning to Amazon myself. The only thing that matters is what your last manager sets during off boarding. Whether they want you back or not.
      Oct 28, 2018
  • Apple / Eng cho Chang
    Stay, get promoted, get ur stock, then get other competing offers to negotiate with G. Ur offer from G should be valid for a year anyway.
    Oct 28, 2018 0
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    • Google WatsGoinOn
      Yeah no thanks is the best response.
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Amazon austria
      OP
      So glad to know there are others in the same situation. Please let me know how it goes.
      Oct 29, 2018
  • Valorem Trynasmash
    Think about it from a longer term perspective as well. Amazon would most likely rehire if you’re doing good there and leave in good terms; knowing that imagine how two fangs look on your resume.

    You should take into account the value of your stocks if it’s a considerable amount I wouldn’t do it.
    Oct 28, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng ;O đ“‚ş
    What? Google offers are good for an entire year.

    They won’t let you delay specifically to get a bonus or stock, as that creates a liability of collusion. Just pass and then start next year?
    Oct 28, 2018 8
    • Amazon austria
      OP
      Are all offers good for a year? Or just SWE?
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Amazon / Product
      Leadership

      Amazon Product

      BIO
      Dabbled with Program/ Category as well.
      Leadershipmore
      @austria, are you going to Google as a Product Manager or Program Manager?

      Also, maybe ask them to match your un-vested set of RSUs that will soon vest? They did that for me
      Oct 29, 2018
  • Microsoft qIYW40
    Money is not the most important thing, nor will it make you happier at the end of the day. If you want to work at google, go work at google. It won’t matter when you look back in 5 years
    Oct 31, 2018 1
    • Guidewire Lahlah
      It’s kind of insulting though, eh? Going through something similar.
      Oct 31, 2018
  • Amazon ABCD2468
    I'd probably take 5% less to save ~400-500 hours a year in traffic.

    It would look good on your resume and if you didnt like it you could boomerang back.

    Downside is you would be letting go of a bunch of stock so it all depends on if you're really happy with what you're currently doing.
    Oct 28, 2018 0

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