Currently at AMZN. Have an offer from GOOG. Base pay is -5% and total compensation is -7%. AMZN TC is ~250k (base 158k) GOOG TC would be ~235k (base 150k) GOOG offer is lateral move. 10 YOE. Role is a product manager, not an engineering role. I have 50+ shares of AMZN vesting in Jan 2019 (calculated into my 2019 total compensation number) . GOOG will not let my start date be in 2019. Boss says a promotion is coming in the next round, but no promises. Should I stick it out at AMZN or take the GOOG offer?
Think about it from a longer term perspective as well. Amazon would most likely rehire if you’re doing good there and leave in good terms; knowing that imagine how two fangs look on your resume. You should take into account the value of your stocks if it’s a considerable amount I wouldn’t do it.
If you are getting 50 in 2nd year, are you saying you got 500 shares 2 years ago? Typical vesting sched for Amazon is 10-10-40-40?
Amazon usually does not rehire if you leave as an L5 or above. You have stock vesting in 60 or so days. I would wait it out.
If you got offer from Google this time, you should be able to get it next time as well. Get some competing offer or try again next year after studying more.
I think that's a naive assumption. Google offers are hard to pull down and they can vary tremendously based on your interviewers. There are some companies where if you pass once you'll pass again (Amazon, MS), but Google is not one of them.
I disagree. At this level, any of these companies (FAANG, MS, etc) are all entirely dependent on interviewer.
Start in 2019 and negotiate for a higher pay. Google recruiter is bullshitting you when he is saying that offer cannot be higher or the start date can’t be delayed.
Stay, get promoted, get ur stock, then get other competing offers to negotiate with G. Ur offer from G should be valid for a year anyway.
Do you have actual offer from google? Is google willing to match your TC?
Yes, I have an offer. The final offer details are in the OP.
Totally stay until your 50+ stock!!! If goog wants you now, they’ll want you next year. Might be a diff team by then, but they’ll still hire you back. Don’t waste the 50+ AMZN stock!
What? Google offers are good for an entire year. They won’t let you delay specifically to get a bonus or stock, as that creates a liability of collusion. Just pass and then start next year?
What do you mean by “pass and then start next year”? If I pass now and they don’t fill the role, can I reach out in February and see if my offer is still valid? Is this a thing that happens?
Are you a SWE? Google offers are god for a full year. You are under no obligation to take a job now. I’m not sure how it works for non-SWE roles.
Should also note that GOOG would be 10 minute commute. AMZN office is 45-60 minutes. Have been at AMZN for almost two years
Shorter commute, better WLB, better for resume Worth it IMO
WLB not always better at Google you should see the search devs checking in cls at 1 am all year long.