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People who do not refer

One of my company’s employee replied “I don’t know you, I only refer to people whom I know” to a student who was asking for an internship referral I think what he believes is that his referral should be impactful and should not spoil his name but how I see is that the person who is asking for referral is actually interested to work with the company or team and is putting extra effort to build contacts- they mostly value my company more than someone who just applied on linkedIn with their one click apply feature. If you don’t want to give referral to someone for some other reasons - it makes sense - but not referring someone just because you don’t know them before Shouldn’t be a reason (Not apple) Tc - 170k + equity of series C cofounder (CTO)

Audible Yond50 Mar 19

I myself have experienced this as a student. I’ve built myself from nothing to working in MAANG as a PM intern and when on the hunt and cold outreaching I’ve unfortunately received these sort of responses right away.

Amazon @MZN4 Mar 19

It absolutely SHOULD be a reason. The core purpose of referrals is being able to vouch for their qualifications, not that you are just someone who took someone’s resume. The latter is minimal effort and does nothing of value when there are more than enough applicants

Inside Ideas Group 78Zo@g64 Mar 19

I always add a note to those referrals “this person cold called me, I don’t know them personally, but I took a look at their work and seems like a viable candidate” That at least lets the recruiting team know what’s what and won’t reflect poorly on the person submitting.

Imagine Learning steamhams Mar 19

That’s exactly what I do. And I always make sure that I meet with them for at least half an hour first to feel it out. You never know when that person will climb the ladder and be open to helping the person who got their foot in the door.

Audible Yond50 Mar 19

That’s such a great way of doing it. Hope more people see this.

Deloitte andrehacks Mar 19

Honestly this is one of the things I love about the blind community. I used to reach out on LinkedIn in college for referrals and get that exact response all the time. But, the people here on blind are more than happy to refer.

eBay Seattle. Mar 19

What stops them from applying directly ?

Workday rentec9 Mar 19

Referral is useless if I don’t reach out to HM for the candidate which I’m not doing for some random person. I have 99% reject rate on 300 referrals off of blind Highly suggest applying normally

Audible Yond50 Mar 19

That’s such a shitty way of thinking about it 😐 people are trying to feed their families, look for better employment, etc. So because of your rejections, you wouldn’t offer a helping hand to others. Have some empathy dude.

Workday rentec9 Mar 19

I’m saying I have cold referred 300 people with great comments and HR has rejected 99% of them. I’ve had 2 reach offer off of blind. One was in Ireland reneged and went to Amazon 1 day before starting. If this was where I worked I would still be getting shit for it. Other guy is happily working here. I gave up referring people unless I know them and am willing to reach out to HM on slack to take a look but even then it has to be a strong role match. I even get $5k bonus but it became a waste of time Highly recommend applying normally

ByteDance ByteBlindz Mar 19

Yes but maybe intern referrals are fine. Seems like a legit reason that past experience wouldn’t matter, as long as the interns school is good and they’re studying the right stuff