Performance improvement plan
Can someone share the generic reasons why people are put on pip in Meta, Google, Amazon etc? #tech #netflix #Apple #Microsoft #Cisco #walmart #linkedin
it’s actually pp ixtending plan, for genetic reasons
Because the company wants to fire them. A pip is to reduce the likelihood of lawsuits.
Is hubspot still doing aggressive pips like last year?
Yep, still doing frivolous PIPs. I was actually a victim of that, I am not at HubSpot any more. Tbh though a lot of companies are doing just that.
#1 reason - bad at their job
PIP exists to document poor performance to reduce the likelihood and potential damage of a wrongful termination or similar lawsuit. It is not actually about improving your performance. You can get on such a plan for actual poor performance, or because you pissed off someone more powerful than you, or because you weren't important enough and your manager was forced to choose somebody.
And what exactly are you documenting? Proof on wrongful termination 😳? PiP and documented coaching is stupid. It is required where the manager is not competent enough to set expectations correctly with everybody. Instead, it’s important to hire experienced managers for high performing teams.
Nah, sometimes people aren't good at their job and their previous manager didn't care enough to correct. PIPs take a lot of documentation and are a pain in the ass. I see them as the absolute last resort - we've had the conversations, quality of work isn't improving with feedback, participation is low or they have disrespectful interactions(like calling a fellow employee a b*tch in Portuguese during a call). Once it gets to that point it makes it difficult for the rest of the team to collaborate and they often end up picking up extra work because this one employee isn't pulling their weight.
What are some examples that show lack of collaboration?
I would guess things like stubbornness / being overly-opinionated to the point of counterproductivity is a big one. For instance, someone insisting on implementing or designing some random low level piece of functionality with a certain pattern / technology / whatever because it's the best thing ever in their eyes and everyone who disagrees is wrong. It's ok to be overly opinionated on the things that are likely to be more impactful to scalability, operations, availability, etc since those decisions can make or break a project. But the things that likely won't make a difference in the big picture should have a lot of implementation flexibility.
They love to see the fodder squirm. Management at those companies get a rise out of it. Hire to fire is another poison of their choice
It used to mean you weren't doing a good job, and the company wanted to work with and coach you on weaknesses. Now it's just a checkbox before termination so they protect themselves from potential lawsuits. Now this isn't a blanket statement but merely a comment on recent trends (especially post pandemic).
legal liability. a single lawsuit can cost you $90M
What are reasons ppl get laid off / piped from google?
Reasons: Bad performance Lack of collaboration Bad behavior Manager hates you ... .. .. And so on..
Pretty much this. Usually summed up to poor performance, friction with manager, or general politics. For instance, not "going with the flow" with leadership decisions in a poorly run org.
It’s been my experience that folks who don’t go with the flow aren’t much productive or impactful either. Poorly run org or not.