Has anyone thought of bringing this up with their manager / higher-ups? Being in tech, the only supplies you really need to get work done is a laptop. So I just wanted to get some feedback if anyone has thought of having this conversation with their manager. Curious to hear from other jobs as well.
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I pray too many people will get used to wfh by EOY and will ask not to come back
My manager can't wait to go back. My coworkers don't seem to have a preference. Some on other teams already went back willingly. I don't have my hopes up.
Managers want to go back because their value to the company is artificially inflated by office politics that can't be done from home. Middle managers are a dying breed for good reason.
This would be good to have as an option, especially SDMs I know who have really long commutes.
Dude all the managers here who are from Amazon have a mortal fear that the employees would slack off if working from home. I would say if your manager isn’t a career Amazon employee then it may be plausible.
At least at Amazon, we enough mechanisms to fire slackers. The bigger problem is how to work effectively with only instant messaging, video calls and emails, especially with more junior employees
I think a lot of the sticker shock is over. At this point it’s more a question of ‘why would I go into the office’? By January (and it’l’ be at least then) even more so
Agreed. Post covid world will involve the majority working from home and occasional office visit when absolutely necessary.
I haven’t. But a friend at Salesforce told me it was an option for them, but comp would be adjusted. I’d rather keep my comp the same and go back to the office when the time comes.
Adjusted by how much %?
I didn’t ask specifics but it was enough that my friend dismissed the idea, even though he dislikes his city.
I think it may work for ICs , not sure how people managers who have significant face time with their teams while in the office, will coup with permanent WFH.
I totally understand your point, but if it works for ICs (who would be remote from their manager), then why can't the manager be remote from the team? I've been a people manager where the vast majority (80%+) of my team was in another city and I managed them, and during the past 6 months I've made it work as well. It has made working with partner teams a bit harder (others people managers) as I can't do a drop in to their office
Same here. I have a team of 85 people , multiple states but majority was NC n wfh was barely an option, even mgrs were conservative about being wfh as that FaceTime was valuable and effective. However since March the team has surfaced and done a remarkable job. As managers we’ve to make it work and if we really think someone is indeed slacking it’s up to us and provide coaching and mentoring. The goal shouldn’t be to get rid of people but to inspire them so they drive their careers forward and becomes leaders themselves.
We talk about this all the time. Unfortunately ibm has a history of firing people just for being remote so we need an official change in direction from the top for this to be feasible.
That's kinda harsh..
Ouch.
I am for sure. At my next one on one.
Good for you.
+1. This week was definitely the tipping point.
No one in their right mind is going to the office while COVID19 is still a pandemic. Just wait it out. On my team in NYC, we have "hot desks" anyway, no one cares where you work from. Just get work done.
Some places care. I think it’s implied that this refers to when things go back to normal.
Well, for those that care where you work from, have they been in their feelings the last 5 months? We are heading towards a new normal where, in my view, remote work will be the preferred majority option. Teams will adapt.
Trying to time the moment right for this, right now too many people with kids going mad at home and want to go back to office, it might trigger my manager in a wrong way.
Some of us have a mortal fear of being in close quarters with coworkers now
I’d be pretty triggered if they told me I had to come into the office for a paycheck after all this