Tech IndustryFeb 28, 2020
CiscodeepL

SWE at Hedge Fund vs FinTech Startup - New Grad looking for advice

Hey Blind community, I am current CS masters student at top school in London and have received offers from two companies a hedge fund (no not 2S, Citadel or JS) but still has about 60b AUM but is generally quite small ~300 employees globally and HQ in London and a FinTech startup which is currently in a growth stage with around ~300 employees founded by ex Google Employees. Im having a difficult time deciding which offer I should go with. The main factors that are important to me are: career progression (learning and skills development), WLB, work culture in that order. With plans to aim for FANG or similar in 2 years or so time. HF pros: TC - come on it's finance no surprises here - left more details about TC below but would be a considerable amount more than the startup (maybe 50% - 70% more) Rotation program - this particular HF offers new grads a rotation program where you spend 3/4 months in various teams in their tech department e.g data, infra, production which I feel like would be good for learning and finding out what I enjoy. Cons: Longer work hours, 8am - 6pm, 10 hour days Need to wear business attire, smart trousers and button shirt - even for tech employees Its not one of the well known tech oriented HFs, judging from my time interviewing there it does seem like they generally do have a modern tech stack and are investing into technology but I've often heard negative things about tech in finance from friends (albeit mainly from large corporate banks). Therefore, A concern of mine would be joining and learning technology that is either old and outdated or not used elsewhere in the industry. They work with C#, Python, Scala, Powershell etc. (Windows shop) FinTech pros: Tech company at heart: SWEs are first class citizens since they are building the main product Very modern tech stack - CTO and a bunch of early employees are ex googlers so they bought over a lot of the SWE practices/tech google have - mono repo, gRPC, heavy users of Go, Python, Kubernetes Docker, Kafka etc - so I feel like learning valuable stuff definitely wouldn't be a concern here. Much more chill work hours standard 9 - 5. Better WLB overall, more relaxed, less strict, regular social activities for employees, less pressure to deliver compared to HF etc. Hedge Fund TC breakdown ~ £50k base, £5k sign on, performance based bonus (firm's performance plus your own individual performance) they wouldn't specify past figures but I think it can be anywhere from 40% and up of your base salary. my anticipated TC for my first year with a 40% bonus would be around £70k and if bonus turns out to be higher then could be looking at the range £80 - £90k. Which by the way for the UK SWE market is very very good for grad offer. FinTech Startup ~ £55k base. Again this is still a really good offer for new grad in the UK market (UK pay is trash compared to silicon valley). I feel like either one would be a good first job, but the big question is can I justify turning my back on potentially £20k - 35k+ pay difference. At the same time, I'd be kicking myself, if I join the HF and end up hating the longer hours or feel like the technology Im learning isn't what I envisioned. Let me know if I can provide more information that I may have missed out. All advice is appreciated, Thanks in advance! #tech #finance #career

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Cisco deepL OP Feb 28, 2020

Could you elaborate on why neither fits a new grad well? Ideally I would join a tech giant but I currently don't have offer from any.

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gmeY28 Feb 28, 2020

Depends a lot on the hedge fund, lots of variance there

Cisco deepL OP Feb 28, 2020

Right, any specific factors that I should take into consideration?

Bloomberg YHTp12 Feb 29, 2020

50k is low

Cisco deepL OP Feb 29, 2020

Do you work in London? If so what’s your YoE and TC?

Bloomberg YHTp12 Feb 29, 2020

apply to bb :)

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pkCL18 Feb 29, 2020

Do a poll. My vote is for startup, will open more doors for your future and hit everything you want except TC takes a little hit

Cisco deepL OP Feb 29, 2020

Attached poll thanks for the note and also thanks for you opinion

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lambda_n Feb 29, 2020

In my opinion in this stage of career you should pick boss and team first and TC second. Being for a couple years under a good boss with a lower TC will give you much more than slightly higher TC and mediocre boss. After that you would be able to switch to a position with higher TC and in brand name company

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NAtj58 Mar 14, 2020

I know this is a bit late, but PM me. I know the HF in question!