I am currently at level 65 in Microsoft in an IC role and have an offer from Uber for Senior Software Engineer level. Package is being discussed but the level is my concern. I was asking for Senior Software Engineer II but they are not budging. Is SSE in Uber good enough level for Principal Engineer in Microsoft?
12 yoe and current TC is 300K in Redmond.
No
How many years as L65?
6 months as L65
That explains the 5a offer. I don’t think it’s a down level.
No
Why not bro?
5a here. This would be a small step back in terms of level, but if you are good you should be able to get promo in 12-18 months. In terms of impact you should be able to operate at the next level (pre-requisite for promo) if you can. I would join if you are excited by the area, believe that company will have successful future (I do) and like offered package. Also If we have successful IPO your TC can easily become 500+ or even 700+
I am waiting for the compensation details, which should take around a week as per the recruiter. Other concerns are if I am not able to cash out RSUs at end of each year as I am able to do with Microsoft’s RSU, it would affect my liquidity.
Congrats on the offer, op. By cashing out I’m assuming you mean vesting the RSUs? RSU at this point are just units without a monetary value, but could be sold on a secondary market. If they could match your TC at MS with salary+bonus, the RSUs should be gravy. Good luck
Ur a principle engineer at Microsoft. That's condescending from uber
65 usually maps to L6. It's not the L7 principal in Amazon.
L6 at Google/FB maps to L5b at Uber
Is principal at Microsoft the new senior?
Ya. They don’t have title inflation but people get down leveled to senior when they get offers from fb/G
A 65 should have the same scope as an l5b
You can’t negotiate your level. If you got Senior Engineer, it’s because your interview performance was at that level.
Interview at fb and google and get competing offers. Fight for your 5B—do not count on promo in a year. You will be coming in from a very different environment and will take some time to ramp up.
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TC yoe please sir