I’m a recent grad (1 year at Apple) currently working in a Program Manager role related to Manufacturing at Apple. I did an internship in Product Management and know that is what I want to do career wise long term (or entrepreneurship in a dream world). I’ve received a Product Manager offer from a legacy tech company (think Cisco, Oracle, IBM, etc). Should I stick at Apple and try to transfer to Product Management internally? I can’t find any Product Manager roles for new/recent grads on the Apple jobs site. All of the postings want 5+ years experience in Product Management. Should I take the hit in company prestige to go into what would long term probably be a more lucrative career path? I know that sticking at Apple would look good on an application for admissions to top MBA programs if I decided to do an MBA then transition to Product Management at that time. I don’t currently see much of a clear path to transition to Product Management at Apple but I really do enjoy working at Apple and would like to stay if that was possible. On the other hand my current role is not teaching me things that would be important for what I want to do long term. Blind Tax: 160#productmanager #product #product #pm Monetarily a move would be about the same comp wise #productmanagement #career-advice
Oh wow you have 1 yoe and makes $160k. I have 10 yoe and makes pretty much the same lol. What is the breakdown of your tc?
125 salary, 25 RSU, 10 bonus
PM roles at legacy companies might not have great exit options. If you take the external opportunity, make sure you don’t stay there for too long.
For those of you voting to stay why is that?
Cisco oracle should not be bound with IBM
Why?
Cisco oracle still have growth products in cloud networking security (batching in from both) and have had good positive growth. Think appdynamics, all security acquisitions, oci, net suite, erp, hcm which is reflected in stock. You see people going from faang to these but I don’t see a lot of that for ibm
For MBA apps - they're all huge brands and the company name won't matter as much as your impact will. Go/stay where you will have the most impact.
This largely depends on what the product management role entails. These jobs are not equal between companies, problem spaces, and teams.
This is a traditional Technical Product Manager role. Designing a product roadmap etc. Not a fake Product role like Microsoft does or Marketing like a lot of Apple’s are