Tech IndustryNov 13, 2020
Newcoffeecans

So DoorDash lost $149 million in all of 2020, and Uber 5 billion?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/13/doordash-releases-s-1-for-ipo.html DoorDash lost a total of $149 million in 2020, a company that is spending every last dollar to expand. Yet Uber lost 5 billion so far this year, and Lyft at 1 or 2 billion as well. Does anyone find this incredible? Is DoorDash really figuring out how to make money from this business (149 million sounds like a lot, but compare that to 5 BILLION). They are leading the market and still expanding. Is Uber and Lyft really mismanaged?

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Shipt 🍕 love Nov 13, 2020

Lol , yeah those overpaid engineers in ATG cost them dearly.

AMD tricktreet Nov 13, 2020

What's ATG?

Citadel BrutеForce Nov 13, 2020

Selfdriving department of Uber that achieved nothing

Uber acKK07 Nov 13, 2020

Not sure about Lyft, but Uber has a global presence in over 600+ cities, along with ATG, Frieght, Rideshare and Eats. With a global presence comes with more cost for ops and local marketing. Uber has been trying to centralize those two things, along with reducing engineering bloat

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BasicAnvil Nov 13, 2020

100% Uber and DoorDash are two different. Uber is a beast that is setting the standard.

Cruise 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 USA Nov 13, 2020

global presence, bigger market, higher revenue would offset the fixed cost and help company to generate profits. If that is not happening then there is clearly something wrong with the business strategy.

Snowflake SGTf81 Nov 13, 2020

I don’t get the marketshare numbers... doordash made ~1.9 billion in revenue for all of 9 months and Uber eats did this alone in last quarter and how does doordash have double the marketshare as Uber eats.?

Amazon baezo Nov 13, 2020

Maybe just the US market? UberEats is around the globe

Snowflake SGTf81 Nov 13, 2020

That’s like Uber eats getting 2 times more revenue from around the world than in USA and even then it has same marketshare as DoorDash, which itself is questionable.... the data doesn’t make sense

Uber JbiM41 Nov 13, 2020

Read through uber's q2 results to understand 5B

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coffeecans OP Nov 13, 2020

Uber Eats only (direct comparison) lost 750M in the first 3 quarters.

Uber darconian Nov 13, 2020

Across probably 10s of countries over 2 of doordash. Uber operates in 600+ cities, not sure if it is fair to compare.

Uber cold-brew Nov 13, 2020

Bruh, we brought postmates for like 2.7b do some research before posting misleading titles like this. Also, we're more than just food delivery. Also, we are in over 600 cities around the globe. Also, we have an actual R&D division (ATG) whereas doordash doesn't invest in the future.

Google ov3hyg Nov 13, 2020

Is atg even doing anything? Last I heard Uber was planning to sell it off

Cruise wIgW71 Nov 13, 2020

Doordash focused there efforts on better operational efficency (better "dasher" experience) while partnering with self driving companies (though they also purchased one last year). So while the rest of what you say might be true i think they do invest in r&d

Credit Karma 8+ Nov 13, 2020

Doordash has positive ebitda since COVID-19, question is if they’ll be able to maintain their top line going past COVID-19. You’ll have to adjust the financials across the Uber and DD to understand the segment contribution margins and ebitda margins to compare, not just lazily reading net income

DoorDash TCDasher Nov 13, 2020

Uber rides were hit very badly due to pandemic. So uber vs doordash is not a good comparison.

Tesla MiMiKatz Nov 13, 2020

Is it safe for a new grad to join Lyft🤔

Uber cold-brew Nov 13, 2020

they just announced another round of layoffs yesterday, let that sink in.

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coffeecans OP Nov 13, 2020

Lyft announced layoffs? Where?

Amazon LUX1E Nov 13, 2020

Neither will make it long term. Between legislation and social wokeness, they won’t financially make it. I give them both 5 yrs

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just me! Nov 13, 2020

You think people are woke enough to not order delivery food?

Amazon LUX1E Nov 13, 2020

No. I think people won’t pay $10/delivery enough time when these companies realize they can’t turn a profit otherwise

Salesforce Z00FORCE Nov 13, 2020

You should be comparing Uber eats to DoorDash. Lyft doesn’t even deliver

Lyft ysvqp Nov 13, 2020

Yet 😬